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RE: Humans Are Not Smarter Than Other Forms Of Life, Just Different

in #philosophy8 years ago (edited)

"the earth went through 5 mass extinctions. In regards to creation and destruction we come nowhere close to other species."

Animals were not responsible for any of those events. Humanity however has proven on more than one occasion that we are perfectly capable of not only forcing a species into extinction , but also of saving another species.

" Intelligence and emotions all all rooted to the same mechanism"

You offered nothing what so ever with this retort .. Where did I say other wise. I made the assertion that other animals are not the peers of humans. An Assertion which you are refuting.

"Are you sure that science has shown that? Read this article then"

Yes its pretty conclusive that's the case. The study you point to along with others support the idea that certain animal species have the capacity limited complex thought / reason and the use of tools. However there has been no study that has advanced the idea that an animal is capable of the same level of intellect and reason that a human being can possess. Just because a chimp can use a stick to retrieve ants to eat does not mean a chimp can repair your car, or program a computer.

Nor does a gorilla learning a very limited vocabulary in sign language make a gorilla as smart as a human which has a far greater capacity to learn. The vast majority of that research has shown the more intelligent animal species have an intellectual level approximate to a small child between 3 to 6 years of age. The difference being that human child will advance and progress as it ages while the smartest animal will not .

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Animals were not responsible for any of those events. Humanity however has proven on more than one occasion that we are perfectly capable of not only forcing a species into extinction , but also of saving another specie

many where. in the Triassic period the plankton of the ocean kill most species

However there has been no study that has advanced the idea that an animal is capable of the same level of intellect and reason that a human being can possess.

again. false comparison. just because other animals don't need to perform our acts does mean they are stupid. also read this quote.

“For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.”

― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

if a dolphin started comparing your ability to learn swimming in respect to them, you will be pretty stupid.

The minute you started quoting Douglass Adams you lost the plot. I am huge fan of his writing and the man had a wicked sense of humor most are simply not capable of appreciating. However you clearly are either being obtuse now or are suffering from Witzelsucht .

Please by all means read all four books of the series, "So long and thanks for all the fish" is arguably the best of the four books because it provides some closure. If you have a little time read Dirk Gently too but try to refrain from using any of its passages to support an argument.

I answered your question. You just wrote 2 paragraphs consisting of advice in order to gain intellectual leverage.

no counter argument whatsoever.

No you really did not. You quoted a sci fi author noted for bringing humor to sci fi. He was not exactly Asimov or Clarke intellectually and I've read all of his works. Try staying on topic . You can quote all types of nonsense from a fiction author but it does nothing to support your argument . Seriously do you suffer from Witzelsucht ? it would explain a lot at this point in the discussion ...

He makes a very valid point no matter who he was. If someone has a quality already and someone else needs to work for that

who is better? is as simple as this

Yes its pretty conclusive that's the case. The study you point to along with others support the idea that certain animal species have the capacity limited complex thought / reason and the use of tools. However there has been no study that has advanced the idea that an animal is capable of the same level of intellect and reason that a human being can possess. Just because a chimp can use a stick to retrieve ants to eat does not mean a chimp can repair your car, or program a computer.

Nor does a gorilla learning a very limited vocabulary in sign language make a gorilla as smart as a human which has a far greater capacity to learn. The vast majority of that research has shown the more intelligent animal species have an intellectual level approximate to a small child between 3 to 6 years of age. The difference being that human child will advance and progress as it ages while the smartest animal will not .

The apex of animals on this planet because of the ability to think, reason, imagine , create and destroy.

Almost every animal out there is times and times stronger than us pound for pound.
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Chimpanzees make monkeys of humans in computer game

The difference is that there aren't any qualifying factors that makes one APEX of shit, period. Apex of animals? Well great, that's nothing more than your opinion on what Apex means, because you just got offered evidence that ability to think, reason is questionable at best, and you didn't want to include Pound for Pound as a standard for the apex of animals.

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