Hi @joslud,

Thanks for your reply! I think I would generally define pride as bad. At least pride in oneself (though self confidence is important). I think you are absolutely right: pride in one's family, one's community, or one's country can be very good (but also can be taken too far). You are definitely correct that it depends on the situation. I will say I think in the context of book one of the Iliad, it is bad. I find myself wondering: how many men are going to die because Achilles feels undervalued? His pride for himself has trumped his pride in his country and his love for his fellow men, and because of this many will suffer.

Thanks again for your reply! I hope to post more about the Iliad in the near future.