New Rule For Entering Steemit Open Mic And The Open Mic Songwriters Challenge

in #openmic7 years ago (edited)

There are some changes to the Steemit Open Mic contest that all participants should be aware of. If you are playing musical instruments in any of the Open Mic contests we thank you for your participation.

When Open Mic first started we wanted to make it as easy to enter as possible so we allowed people to sing acapella or to a backing track and many of those entries were really good.

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However lately there has been a wave of entries from people who don't play musical instruments and it seems clear they are entering the contest just to get the rewards as opposed to being part of this community.

The beginning of the contest posts states:

Steemit Open Mic is an online, live music venue to give musicians a chance to share their music with the Steemit community and get their music heard.

Open Mic has always focused on gathering musicians together on Steemit and the rewards are just a way to lure people in. Yes, musicians can earn some great payouts even if they don't win the contest especially with the price of Steem and SBD rising lately.

Unfortunately, this also brings with it a lot of people scamming the contest. You wouldn't believe the things people do to try to get over on the Open Mic contest and get a payout.

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There have been people opening multiple accounts and disguising themselves to avoid detection so they can enter multiple times.

People also pull videos from YouTube that are not their own and try to pass them off as themselves.

Some people have started lip syncing to a recorded track like Milli Vanilli. It's such a joke and it's taking more time to sort through than it takes to listen to valid entries.

Still, others have been stealing valid entries from weeks before and claiming them as their own. One guy even tried to pass off the National Anthem Of Iran as an original song.

We are not going to let this happen.

If you are a musician playing music for the community you have nothing to worry about but if you are singing acapella or karaoke this rule applies to you.

We made this new rule for Open Mic beginning week 67.

NOTE: While we used to allow acapella performances to enter Open Mic, recently there have been far too many entries of singers without any musicians. Open Mic is a community of musicians and for this reason entries without some musical instrument being performed will not be considered a valid entry. NO KARAOKE

There are exceptions

There is a Karaoke contest on Steemit that you can enter. Karaoke Contest Week 22 Contestants --- by @killerwhale

There is also a rap challenge for rappers Steemit Rap Challenge Week 20 Sponsored By Teamsteem And Adsactly Rhyme For Sbd Win Prizes --- by @rondonson

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Does this mean you cannot sing for the Open Mic contest? That depends. There are exceptions to this rule which I will cover shortly but the main reason we did this is to keep Open Mic focused on building a community of musically talented people.

You don't have to sing like Mariah Carey or Michael Jackson or play guitar like Joe Satriani to enter Open Mic but there does have to be some musical element to an entry.

Some of the entries lately have been so bad that it makes Open Mic look bad when we support those entries and it makes for a poor listener experience when the number of sub-par entries outnumbers the musical entries. I'm not talking about novice performances, I'm talking about people barely aking any musical effort at all and are just trying to pull rewards by entering Open Mic.

It's my fault for upvoting every entry. Not anymore.

We have had some really bad entries and way too many of them just really suck. I know that is not the politically correct thing to say but thank God I'm not a politician.

If you can't carry a tune in a bucket but are still playing your heart out on an instrument, we still want you to be part of the community, we just need to weed out the scammers and the people who are not really playing music at all.

So, no more Karaoke entries.

There are exceptions

Since we started this rule on week 67 there are people scamming it already by pretending to play an instrument, singing Karaoke but blowing into a harmonic every few seconds, tapping on a chair and calling it drums, asking if a microphone is considered a musical instrument, etc..

We want musicians of all levels of talent. That is the community we are supporting on Steemit and will continue to support.

Are there exceptions? Yes.

There are exceptions

Let me give you an example. This is an acapella performance but there is no denying the musical talent in this performance so it will be included and upvoted.

Steemit Openmic Week 67 Fallin From Alicia Keys Cover --- by @alejandra23

Is it worthy of an upvote? Hell yes!

What we are trying to discourage is entries that have no musical quality to them at all. I won't post an example of those because I don't want to embarrass anyone but if you're part of this community you know what I'm talking about, right?

So for those of you entering Open Mic who don't play a musical instrument, you may not get upvoted. I suggest you find a friend who plays an instrument to join in with you if you want to enter Open Mic.

There are exceptions

EDIT: (After reading @limabeing's comment below) If you are a singer and honestly performing for this community you are probably the exception we're talking about. Yes, vocalists are musicians too. However, almost all of the people attempting to scam this contest are entering an acapella or karaoke entry probably because they have no musical quality to contribute and somewhere along the way they heard they could make money singing on Open Mic. Those scammers will now get a link to this post or get ignored so I can focus on those who add to this community instead of spending countless hours a week dealing with scammers. Your singing abilility has nothing to do with this post. We just want more music, not scammers.

For those of you that keep trying to scam the Open Mic contest, you are on our radar. Some of you have been able to get away with it, some I have removed my vote after realizing they entered more than once, (some have entered 4 or 5 times in a week) and if you continue down this path I will mute you so you will not show up in my feed so there is no chance I make that mistake again.

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Each one of these scammers knows about these updates and I received mixed reactions. Some have understood and deleted their multiple entries, some are angry with me, and some have even gone so far as to accuse me of being racist for excluding them.

I assure you, where you come from or your racial background has nothing to do with these new changes. Music, like love, is a universal language and I love all kinds of music.

I come from a multicultural family. My grandfather is from Italy, my grandmother from Spain, my mother is from Ireland, and my father from Morocco. We spoke 5 languages in my house growing up and listen to all kinds of music. If you were not upvoted for your entry it was because you didn't follow the rules or are blatantly scamming the contest.

It's interesting to notice that almost all of the scammers originate from Nigeria, Indonesia, and India and still there are many talented musicians entering from those countries as well. I understand that in a poor country people will do what they have to do to make some money so I'm not surprised at these attempts, but in Venezuela, a country with a collapsed economy where a few Steem is worth a small fortune, no one has tried to scam Open Mic.

Understanding that English may not be the first language of many of the participants I try to be patient when people do not follow the rules. For example, not saying Steemit Open Mic at the start of their video. When that happens I check to see if the video was posted on YouTube this week and make a judgment call on including it or not.

There are exceptions

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As Open Mic grows I'm spending more time dealing with people who have not followed the rules as I am on listening to valid entries. Because of this, I have not been able to comment on every valid entry like I used to. This bothers me, but I'm thankful to see the community and the judges interacting more.

Going forward I'm going to ignore the invalid entries so I can focus on building the community. If your post is completely ignored that is probably why. Go back and read the rules and follow them.

To everyone who is posting and entering Open Mic correctly thank you so much for your participation, your music and energy, your patience as we go through these growing pains, and for making Open Mic the thriving community it is.

Thanks for supporting us while we clean up the entry process and make Open Mic about the music. I trust you understand why we made these changes and how they will make the Open Mic community even better in 2018.

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message and solutions. Yes vocalists will be given exceptions because as we filter through the entries you have a great ear as well and can tell who is being genuine with music. The dreamteam is ready to judge and reward and appreciate and encourage as we all grow together and gift the gift of music. Let's do this bro

You know exactly what we need to do to keep the scammers out.

If you're a singer or vocalist worrying about this news, STOP! There are exceptions and if you're musical you have nothing to worry about

Yes indeed and exactly. True musicians and vocalists don't need to worry. It is pretty blatant to see who is scamming and not even trying

Lol ok ok.

Good to see this post and some new rules.

My main guitar picking finger has been injured for a couple of weeks, but I'm hoping to perform and video a song for you this week. I've been looking fwd to it for a while, I ran open mics in Nottingham for well over 15yrs up until around 2014. You seem like you're really catching the spirit of it too.

I'm glad you guys are sorting out the scammers and kareoke, as I've been watching some stuff lately that does, as you say, put you off it and makes a mockery of it too. You're bang on, what you have going on here is too good to let it slide down that slope.

Of course there are exceptions, such as the one you show above, and good beatboxers etc, but don't listen to the moaners, it's definitely a move you needed to make. There are other avenues for kareoke etc, and you want to attract musicians and musicianship, and that's the one thing that would certainly ruin it eventually, if not tidied up.

I'll be supporting regularly, hopefully from this week assuming my finger will bend enough, it was swollen straight for a while.

Online Open Mic........................ who'd ever have thought it eh?

Big up!!!

SCAM ALERT!

Since making this post the scammers have changed tactics. They stopped doing karaoke posts and started stealing actual entries from people entering this week.

People are downloading YouTube videos from other people who have performed for Open Mic and claim it as their own on a new Steemit account with a new YouTube channel.

Like this guy.

https://steemit.com/openmic/@michaeljhon/steemit-open-mic-week-67-be-yourself-the-weli-cover-by-me-michaeljhon

Here is another example where this guy:
https://steemit.com/openmic/@arispaloh/steemit-open-mic-week-67-3770788fa9923

Stole this guys valid performance from this week:
https://steemit.com/openmic/@thesimpson/steemit-openmic-week-67-romany-eyes-original

and entered it as his own content.

They have been called out and their blog muted so it won't show up in my feed.
Then they start another account and try again. Please be on the lookout from people stealing your Open Mic entries and posting your performance as their own and report it to us if you find them. Thank you.

Aw jeez, what f*cking shysters. I guess that means you've got to check everybody out that's new and with low RP of around 25 by either looking at it and calling a judgement or by seeing if the name of the user is repeated similarly on steemit.

Would it be worth bringing in the same as they have for the introduceyourself post, the musician holds the paper up clearly spelling the user's username as he speaks out the "open mic week #68" bit? On the basis that the scammers can't duplicate an actual account name here.

Just a thought.

Just had another thought though, that you've probably already had this thought run through your mind............

Yes, I have to check new accounts extra carefully. I can't believe people go through so much trouble for a few bucks and feel bad for the people creating valid content getting their videos ripped off.

the musician holds the paper up clearly spelling the user's username as he speaks out the "open mic week #68" bit

That's a good idea, but it's a drag already having to even say that, but if it continues we may have to do exactly that.

"but it's a drag already having to even say that, but if it continues we may have to do exactly that" It doesn't seem to be putting people off entering mate, lol, a piece of paper with a username on it isn't that much more to add to it really, do you think? It's another trip wire forthe scammers, and I think all genuine users will surely understand the need when they realise that their stuff might get stolen next week etc............. ;)

Wha?!?! That's crazy that people actually would do that! Respect and manners totally out the window for these kinds of scammers. I'm still trying to get my head around the audacity of it!

I completely support this @luzcypher , don't let people make you feel bad, its plain to see what your intentions are, its about the scammers - which is good. If people want to nit pick over language, so be it, I think you have been quite clear :)

Thanks, man. I just want to keep Open Mic fun for everyone and keep it about the music. Speaking of music, I'm sure enjoying yours lately.

Lol! A lot of feathers ruffled in this thread. 😉

Allow me to climb up here really quickly...

I TOTALLY agree and honestly, stopped entering (though I play an instrument... even if it IS only a ukulele 😏) . I don't really think I'm quite good enough (though a LOT better than some I've seen 😆) to enter and NOT be wasting your time. I wanted to start a contest of sorts where folks could put videos of what they are working on, but not yet perfect. But I've learned, most think their sh*t IS perfect. 😎

It's sad how much panties get twisted when people think you are talking about them. Ya didn't even call anyone out, yet the virtue signaling cometh!

I'm sorry you are having to deal with this. You made it VERY clear what you are after and most will see that. Obviously, you aren't dogging singers. For those that thought/think that, it's simply to do with how THEY feel about singing.

You are super nice to explain to them over and over that singers are people too. LOL!

I flippin' love singing... and playing whatever instrument I can find and in no way did I feel like you were using the wrong words (isn't that more of a Facebook thing?) or attacking singers.

I saw over 300 entries in OpenMic recently. That's NUTS. Especially if it's a lot of karaoke.

Side note: If anyone is still reading...

The Killer Whale Karaoke Contest has HUGE prizes and LITERALLY 3 or 4 people enter a week. It's easy money if you have followers to upvote ya. Just remember... it's KARAOKE... singing on backed tracks.

And lastly, those that are all up in arms about this... you can always just post whatever the heck ya want. For reals, ain't nobody stoppin' ya. Just be respectful to those TAKING TIME and FUNDS to hold these contests.

Follow the rules or find another sandbox to play in.😎

Rock on, OpenMic Land. Rock on.

Thank you, my dear, for saying exactly what you said. I agree 100% with everything you said in this comment except one thing.

You are good enough to play in Open Mic and you're never a waste of my time! Absolutely and we have missed you.

And remember everyone...

... singers are people too

Awe, shucks!😍

Thank you! I might inch my way back in here soon. At the very least you'll be seeing more duets with me and @chrisroberts 😎 .

Awesome! Look forward to that.

You do that lass! 👍

As a supporter of Aus's trail and a hip hop head I'm glad there's exceptions ... Just like any instrument, good rapping takes 5 years to learn and 10 years to master ... most, like me, do it for 10 years and are still only mediocre, if not outright bad. Would hate to see a true artist with exceptional talent like @jamesgetsit disqualified.

Wow thank you so much for the opportunity to showcase one's talent @luzcypher. Although the new rules might be stiff for some... It's actually a good development to help curb the excesses of such scammers....
Looking forward to a great time in the open mic contest....

I have to admit that I bristled quite a bit because my voice is my instrument. Classically trained and a former soloist, I am a musician through and through. That being said, I completely understand your need to weed out the scammers and fakes. It's sad how people will take advantage of a good thing.

There are exceptions. I guess I should have highlighted that more in my post.

All the scammers, which is what this post is about, are entering acapella or karaoke entries. They are barely doing anything and it is obvious they are trying to just get rewards. If you are not a scammer you have nothing to worry about.

That's why there are exceptions to this rule

How have you been by the way? Long time since we talked.

I agree 100% with all you said, this community thrives as talented people have their shot, when people try to scam the system, it makes us all look bad, it's a shame some people can't appreciate this community for what it is, an unbelievable place to share real music and talent, all my support goes out to you and all of the judges!

The sad part is the scamming part which means that there is an intention to deceive. It's sad because it defeats the purpose. I am planning to join as well, but I guess I really have to practice some piano skills first. I can use the new rule as a motivation to further help me become a better musician.

I think this new rule is fair, and hopefully be able to weed out those who make it look bad.

By the way, are there people in the group who would be willing to put tunes, in some songs written?

That's a great attitude, use these new boundaries to push yourself to be better, that where creativity and innovation reside, My participating in the songwriters challenge has helped me believe that I can actually be a singer/songwriter by sheer proof of the results :)

You gots this! practice hard, you'll be so much better for it!

I second that attitude! Exactly use this as an opportunity to better yourself as a creator! If you don't play an instrument besides your own voice find an accompanist.

Trust me it will be much more fulfilling when you play with another musician or start accompanying yourself!

This rule will stop scammers, not vocalists

That's why there are exceptions.

Here is another example of an exception.

Steemit Open Mic Week 67 De Una Capital A Otra Cancion Original --- by @ovweedb

Is this a karaoke entry? Technically, yes.

Is it a valid entry? Yes. There is no scamming going on here. These people are really singing this. A scammer would be lip syncing to it.

I hope that makes why this rule is here more clear. If you only knew the sheer numbers of people trying to scam this contest right now you would see why we had to do this.

But the example above would get upvoted for sure even though it is technically a karaoke entry, it is clearly not scam or someone trying to cheat the contest which is what this whole post is about.

Thank you!!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙏🙏🙏🙏

I hear ya. I can only imagine how many bullshit entries you've been dealing with. I'd lose my mind ;) Good thing no one really tries to scam the Steemit Sandwich Contest.. yet lol

Anyway, i'm not the host & I'm pretty sure that you know what you're doing!

Much respect and gratitude for you & what you've brought to the music community on Steemit (possibly igniting it cough cough).

I saw no bouncy ball on the screen, it must be ok!

Seriously I wouldn't class this as karaoke at all, after all it's the standard way to record a lot of good hip-hop, singing over dj's or mixes.......... I liked these

That Alicia Keys Cover really deserves an upvote and even winning! She kills it! 👏

I know, right? I get goosebumps every time I hear her sing. Listen to this.

I'm blushing hahahaha Thank you Luzcy. I really did not want to make so much fuss, I'm sorry. If I do not win XD I promise to play an instrument or look for someone to play for the next entry. I promise

No need to do that.You are one of the exceptions I'm talking about. Just do your thing girl.

Goosebumps!!! Omg how much more if she's playing music. Oh no. She doesn't really need.

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