Evidence of Steemit Inc making representations about use of ninja-mined stake

in #ninjamine5 years ago (edited)

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In mid-February 2020 Justin Sun acquired the shares in Steemit Inc and proceeded centralise the blockchain under his control, improperly using Steemit's founders stake (intended for development and decentralisation of the blockchain) and tricking exchanges into initially supporting his power grab.

After extensive efforts to resolve the dispute failed, the community revolted and formed a new, fully decentralised blockchain - Hive - without the pernicious influence of Justin Sun and his minions.
Because of Open Source licensing, Hive was legally able to duplicate all the code and content on Steem.
The vast majority of the community and decentralised applications and projects moved to Hive and Hive was listed on many cryptocurrency exchanges without having to pay the normal listing fees.

On 19 May 2020, a Steem hard fork (0.23) designed to steal the Steem from 65 accounts associated with creating Hive became public.
My position on this hard fork can be found here: https://peakd.com/hf23/@brianoflondon/letter-to-exchanges-do-not-run-steem-hard-fork-23-hf-0-23-0

This was the final straw for my involvement with Steem.

I will now post exclusively on Hive at https://peakd.com/@apshamilton/posts
All my old Steem content can also be found on Hive.


So thanks to @aggroed's call to action post we've been getting submissions of potential evidence of Steemit Inc's representations about use of the ninja-mined stake for about 4 hours now.

And we already have some decent evidence:

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I'm sure there is a lot more evidence out there so keep up the good work.

But this is enough to present to Justin Sun already.

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Thanks for digging and pulling up these records.

Two thoughts:

  1. the images are hosted on servers controlled by STINC, which is a bit concerning. Using a different frontend like busy or steempeak would be on workaround. Or also copying the text of the screenshots as blockquotes, so it gets written to the blockchain.

  2. none of the comments provide guarantees or promises that the STINC Steem will not be sold for personal gain or used to vote. That's a bummer, I do think these claims exist, but we need to find them.

  1. I am posting via SteemPeak so images are stored there. Also I have copies on my own computer.
  2. A Court will imply this from the commitments made. Obviously if you promise its for the development of the chain etc, you can't sell for profit.

I am posting via SteemPeak so images are stored there

Interesting & good to know. When we look at the raw transaction, it does show image URLs like https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/apshamilton/9xYZTUbQ-Screen20Shot202020-03-0420at2022.22.15.png.

But when viewing this post on SteemPeak, it uses URLs from https://steemitimages.com. Possibly @steempeak is relying on a version of the STINC servers to save bandwidth. Not sure.

Obviously if you promise its for the development of the chain etc, you can't sell for profit.

Yeah I just don't see any of the STINC statements reaching the level of a promise or even commitment. I do think if investors were mislead, then there is potential reason for Ned to be worried, but perhaps not any binding obligations that would pass onto Sun. Although it would help to see the contract of sales between Ned and Sun. I guess the argument is that Sun is still bound by all obligations of the company.

I see both sides, but wasn't the expectation that STINC would always sell at least some of its stake for personal enrichment? This was not a non-profit by any means.

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Excellent. Please cite the source of this.

I found it here but do not know where is really came from. https://steempeak.com/steem/@jackmiller/sf-22-2-facts-vs-opinions

Wow.. I never got a gradual dispersment of that STEEM.. anyone here get an upvote for good content?! No only witnesses? Or those close to Mr Ned?

Maybe the silence was a pay off for how many years? Please..

Hello,
This seems like good evidence.

I can help draft or review an encouraging letter for Justin based on what we find.

Thank you for your effort. Coolheads must prevail.

That Github comment is EXACTLY what state all exchanges should be in permanently without any doubt.

Yes but how do you enforce all exchanges decline voting rights, when there is no foolproof way to determine:

  1. whether an exchange belongs to an account
  2. what exactly qualifies as a custodial exchange

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