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RE: EOS - The next Dan Larimer Thing

in #newslink7 years ago

indeed, I am pretty confident that Larimer has the required capabilities to resolve the many issues with ethereum. It will probably be better, a lot better. The design features he put into Bitshares and Steem are also in EOS, and I think that Steem really deserves to have the Beta tag removed now. It's fully operational, the only thing that is required now is for it to be changed to enable this partial consensus and distributing the distinct datatypes in the system into separate, but linked databases (yes, this is a bit like ethereum's design).

I'm not going to invest in EOS, because I am building Dawn. Maybe. My priority is on making money, so I may end up looking into this also. Larimer does not like ICOs, and I think that this current fad is going to end in tears, specifically, many many people being kidnapped and accused of trying to skirt past securities laws.

Note that to some degree, Larimer's ideas were a key source of how the idea of using tokens as a funding source became the big deal it is now. You can read this in one of his blogs, which I commented on a couple of months ago, about how to raise the funds for development without any kind of legally dangerous incursions into the Financial Securities space. The whole crypto community has gone mad on these ideas now.

I just think that smart contracts are not the way forward, because of CS software engineering principles. Really, you could even say it's like carpentry: measure twice, cut once. Smart contracts running on virtual machines is like cutting and then measuring.

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I really love how you plainly expain things. It's like a breath of relief. I was really thinking I was loosing it, I mean I studied some college level math, I was always the skeptic, liked to find things out by myself... But for a while I was thinking when am I going to catch up with the newest crypto ideas. Well I'm catching up now! Thank you.

It's what I'm good at, which is why Steem has been such a boon in my life!

Good to hear! People who truly understand something can explain it well. Eventhough I think a lot of people don't understand shit and just go with the hype, it might be we all have different wave lengths!

There is only one wavelength of truth :) But there can be many paths to it.

Dude! I don't believe that! A spectrum maybe but not a single wavelength, too little entropy for something interesting. OK maybe π...

no, there definitely is one only, the carrier wave, if you like... A plurality of opposing 'truths' is badly mislabeled. In any situation, there is an objective measure, though usually we can't be 100% sure, though we can be confident enough when we can use the information to cause change as the information specifies, after many tests and experiments.

also, truth has nothing to do with entropy, or negentropy (growth), it's just a model with which to invent machines and methods of achieving a desired end goal. The universe doesn't care what you believe, it just trots along doing things in its own way, and it will never change its ways (allahu akbar... prais god), no matter how much you try to convince yourself. If you want to be successful, you must obey its laws. Sadly, nobody has fully elucidated enough of these laws in the mushy areas of biology and sociology. I think the austrian economists are pretty much on the nail about economics but nobody in washington is talking about that these days.

I don't want to live in a foggy world where anything that is important is not visible to me. You know, the book 'Alice in Wonderland' was actually written as a philosophical jab at the then young field of quantum physics which seemed to suggest that the universe did not obey fixed laws. Well, Quantum Physics is mostly right, but some parts of the theory are simply glosses because it is impractical to test (eg, seeing atoms with light - they are too small, even electrons are too small.

Why so serious? ;) OK the outcome of truth could be 0 or 1 sure but I meant the embodiment of truth, the information itself. Maybe I took too much acid in my life but I tend to see things differently.

Nah I should write a longer reply but I'm going to enjoy the sunset and write it later ok?

There's no denying that a deluded person really has this image of the world in their mind, and sometimes simply you lack the information that led them to their conclusion. You might call them crazy, but unless you are sure that they didn't develop their view from facts, you can't be 100% sure, because you may be the one with the bad information. This is compassion, and you should be careful to not muddle it up with what the buddhists call 'idiot compassion' - giving substance to the illusions of others by conforming to their world view (as a victim, usually).

When it comes to subjectivity, there is no absolute truth. Most of the time we are partly wrong about everything.

Thank you for your detailed response. The securities laws are certainly a worry for people running these ICOs. I have often worried that eventually Steemit will have issues because people are getting these payouts but Steemit doesn't submit information to the Internal Revenue Service. It is sort of a gray area because it isn't in US dollars and they probably wouldn't need to have a money transmitters license as well because the Internal market is only exchanging STEEM and Steem Dollars.

In the United States if you get paid over $500 from an affiliate program then a copy of that information gets sent to the IRS. With this there is nothing sent but they may or may not have issues with that side of it because they aren't dealing with the ultimate sale to US Dollars.

The legalities of this stuff is something I don't like to even think about to be honest.

I think, if the financial dictators of the USA, especially the racketeers in the IRS, would see Steem way down the line as ripe targets for propaganda coups about the benefits of government centralised regulation. They just passed a law demanding all US citizens declare their cryptos to customs when they pass the border.

In my opinion, if you are still in the USA, you are a masochist. Much of the rest of the world, even the second world, is more free than the USA. I mean, the IRS even claims to be able to tax you when you are resident in another country! No other government is as audacious as this, and not only that, this is of course going to lead to a lot more conflict between them and pretty much all the rest of the world except UK, USA and the western europe. Especially Russia and China.

No, there is no, current, tax liability risk related to the way Steem works. Even the minimum balance/account price thing is outside of their jurisdiction. The only thing that will happen to us from them about Steem is going to be no different to Bitcoin, Dash, Ethereum, and what have you. The ICOs, on the other hand, that could get sticky.

There are advantages and disadvantages here but I don't have a lot to compare it to since I haven't ever lived in another country.

I like our national parks. That is one advantage to being here.

Here in Eastern europe, we have vast forests that are less fucked up by governments than over there. If you are comfortable with the situation there, and don't see the need to migrate, that's your prerogative. I migrated out of Australia because the government was such an inordinate obstacle to my prosperity growing. I landed on the street, for a while, but the benefits of greater freedom are now starting to bear fruit, as I sit here reading from a 4k display attached to a computer with a 8 core 16 thread processor, 32Gb and an NVMe SSD...

Most people manage ok under whatever government, because most people are not as badly messed up by the life-toxic businesses that are empowered by governments, and are more susceptible to propaganda and more likely therefore to become complacent and satisfied. I am neither of these, so I have to be a lot more agile.

I'm glad that everything turned around for you. You are one of the more interesting figures here on Steemit. Some of the stuff you have written before is on another level. I'm pretty technical even though I may not seem like it from my blog posts but it was hard for me to even keep on the same page.

I'm actually learning a lot by being on Steemit. Even little stuff that isn't technical. I found out the other day that there are elephants in Sri Lanka. I knew they lived in India but didn't realize they were on that island. :-)

Yeah, the information sharing is probably the heart of what makes steem valuable. Two days ago @huntiii put me onto Jack Kruse, and that led me also down a few other rabbitholes, and this would never have happened if I hadn't piped up in a comment to parrot the line most people stick to about electrosensitivity - scepticism. The contrary evidence @huntiii put me onto was so compelling it's going to change my life, I am dead certain about it.

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