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RE: Italy - The new law against "Fake News".

in #news8 years ago

WOW! although I do kind of understand where the people behind the proposed law are coming from, it may be a law which results in 'natural' censorship. or it'll drive websites and platforms outside the borders of Italy where Italian law is not applicable. Both scenario's are not wanted.

How is the general public in Italy taking this act proposal?

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Be aware that , more or less since 2002, any crime done by italian citizens IS under the italian law, until the citizen lives in Italy. Meaning, it doesn't matters if Facebook is italian or not: until you are living in italy you are under the rule of italian law, and when you did something forbidden , you will be prosecuted.

The only thing a provider could do is to deny the authority the logs. Which will trigger , almost automatically, the ban: according with italian laws , the government can ask the ISP to BGP blacklist whoever, and there is a pretty good record of this activity: so if facebook will refuse to provide the informations, first it will be almost banned to do business in Italy (which is ~7Bn$ market for them) and then banned at all.

Here you can find a list of sites banned already: https://censura.bofh.it/elenchi.html Please notice some of them they are banned by IP, meaning BGP blackhole: changing your DNS is not working if you are using any italian ISP.

So to "move away" has a little chance to help if you are an italian citizen: basically, they stopped any italian citizen to post, share or repost any of this news, and to create forum/groups which are reporting them.

The public opinion in Italy has known Berlusconi in the past, which means, Italy owns the copyright of Trump. So it is not the first of the problems in their minds , now.

Now you got me getting curious if similar laws apply in the Netherlands, the country I live in, regarding the out of border done 'crimes'. I will for sure research that topic.
Berlusconi is indeed the blueprint for President Trump hahaha; although it is not really to laugh about :(

Well, being Italian I have seen this "Trump" already. Being Honest, Trump looks like a fake chinese copy of Berlusconi.

What happens is this kind of phony idiots are trying to apply their imaginary policy, fitting an imaginary world. When it won't work at all, they start saying:

  1. The press is guilt, because it spreads pessimism.
  2. There are hidden powers preventing me to succeed.
  3. I do not have enough power to really drive the country. (not like a company, at least).
  4. Communist/Aliens/Lesbians are plotting to make me fail.
  5. Constitution was written by soviet, terrorist or worst, like vegans.
  6. Rules are evil, because I hated when mom was slapping me.
  7. The reason people is not happy has nothing to do with economy, is all about boobs.

of course, the population is terrorized to have this guy in the button room, capable to take important decisions. But, after a while, the people will realize that decisions are NOT taken by the government, so that, having a showman in charge is almost funny, and mostly harmless.

Politics is more or less understated: the government has a very little power. And people like Berlusconi or Trump will help the people to realize that, there is no such a thing like "the government".

I actually agree with you; Politicians are mostly the spokespeople. And this is for sure the case in the USA, more than maybe in the Netherlands...although in Netherlands also corporates and others are determining what really will happen. Luckily we have a multi party system with at least 2 parties in government and sometimes even 3 or 4, which makes even the spokespeople somewhat 'in the middle' to be able to form a government.

When you are in democracy , the problem is that you need consensus.

"Need consensus" means, if you "decide" to do "A", corporations, unions, parties, and more, must enforce it. Without consensus, any democracy cannot work.

This kind of people like BErlusconi and Trump are coming from companies, where they don't need consensus, and things are happening just because the CEO said that.

So what they will do is to be in charge, start doing laws or executive order, and expect the country will enforce the new policy, like it would happen in a company.

Unfortunately, this is not working for countries. As a result, all of their policies will fail. So they will start to react as they did in companies, like "fire this guy! fire that guy!" and they will realize that no, the government cannot fire unions, cannot fire corporations, cannot fire parties.

Is just a matter of time, and Trump realize that politic is much more complex than business.... and this is why he isn't good enough for that. He may only achieve business, but politics is too hard for him.

Business < politics.

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