My initial thoughts on the current Judge Roy Moore controversy
Late last week The Washington Post released an article concerning Judge Roy Moore who is running for Senate in Alabama as a Republican. The article indicated there were possible sexual harassment claims against Roy Moore. These claims were from more than 30 years ago. The time frame is relevant, but before I go into that here are some things to keep in mind.
The GOP Establishment spent millions and backed Luther Strange as the GOP candidate and Roy Moore won the nomination, and that is why he is now the choice versus the Democratic candidate. Luther Strange had evidence (not allegations) of corruption in the past. This is why the "establishment" wanted him. Trump even came out for Luther Strange as he was directed he should, though he was angry about that advice later. You see, Roy Moore will support a lot of the things that Trump has promised and why he was elected, but they are things the establishment has NOT been supporting. Roy Moore is an example of getting rid of establishment RINOs and putting someone who seems to actually represent their claims in their place.
Roy Moore was doing quite well, when this Washington Post article came out. It should be noted that the Washington Post wrote and article about him when he was running against Luther Strange as well claiming that Roy Moore didn't pay his taxes on a particular transaction. It turns out the article was a LIE. There was no money made on the transaction in question, so there are no taxes on an income of $0. They lied then. Could these allegations without evidence also be lies?
Here are some things that have come out. It is alleged that over 30 years ago Roy Moore asked to speak with, and date young women anywhere from 15 to 19 years of age in the various allegations. Many of these it is reported the arrangement was even made through the parents of the young women. Back then DATE did not mean have sex with, or anything like that. It was a form of courtship. He wanted to get to know them. Were they young? Yes. Did he have sex with them? No, that is not the allegations.
Another reason that 30 years ago is relevant is that what we consider sexual harassment today WAS NOT sexual harassment 30 years ago. In fact, what Roy Moore did was old fashioned even 30 years ago and seemed to go back to older traditions that were even more formal, and less likely to be as sexual in nature as was even somewhat normal back then.
The behavior, and approaching the parents as well as the claims being made do not really support the conclusions the article and allegations seem to want people to draw from the information. Furthermore, the allegations that have been made were not actually a crime 30 years ago.
You could tell a woman she was pretty, without it being sexual harassment.
You could ask a woman out on a date, without it being sexual harassment.
These days a lot of things are sexual harassment that were not before. It makes it very dangerous for people to try to get dates unless they do so digitally through some dating service. Any other approach these days could be considered sexual harassment.
Here is an important thing about LAW. You cannot charge someone for breaking a law and committing a crime by applying laws that are here today, but WERE NOT present during the time of the alleged events. This is unjust.
So if they want to go after Roy Moore for this they need to present something that was a crime even 30 years ago and they better have some provable evidence. If they can do this then even those on the right will support going after Roy Moore.
However, this is not even CLOSE to what has occurred. Instead allegations that are not crimes of the time have been made. There are other allegations that some of those making the allegations were paid to do so. That too is unproven.
Yet, there are calls for Roy Moore to step aside and not run based upon these allegations.
Do you realize how stupid that is?
That means all we have to do is CLAIM (aka make allegations) against anyone we don't want to run and whether the allegations are true or not does not matter. We can stop ANYONE from running just by making claims without evidence, proof, etc.
Stupid.
Then to show you the hands of the Republican "establishment" we have people like Romney coming out and saying Roy Moore should step down and "innocent until proven guilty does not apply in politics". Yet, Romney himself is someone who has been a target of allegations that ended up being false. I guess he should have just stepped down back then too. Oh, wait, he didn't. Is there a name fore that? Yes. It is called hypocrisy.
If you look the attempted misdirection, character assassination, and motives for these attacks seems pretty blatant. These guys are getting pretty sloppy.
The problem is some people don't care about truth, facts, evidence, etc as long as the target is someone they perceive as an enemy. This is a problem.
Truth, facts, and evidence matter whether the target is considered friend or foe. A double standard is not justice.
- Why evangelical voters are unlikely to bail on Roy Moore - The Washington Post
- Moore threatens to sue Washington Post over report - CNN
- Roy Moore disrupts U.S. Senate race in Alabama — and prepares for new level of defiance in Washington - The Washington Post - September 21st
- ‘Take the Bible…’: And thus began the worst defense of Roy Moore - The Washington Post
Keep in mind, The Washington Post is the outlet that lied in the primary against Luther Strange. They are also the outlet that released these allegations.
He married his wife after all of that and has been with her the entire time since then. There are no allegations that come after his marriage. So it seems very much like old school courting as he was seeking a wife.
All these supposed "sexual harassment" dating back to the era of Adam are likely the vanguard of a new "political correct" offensive of the Left to silence any opposition to their sordid agenda. Currently, mere accusation has the power to destroy political and economic well-being of any US resident. The drones no longer care whether the accusations have legitimacy. Any public figure can now be character assassinated with just the mere phrase " I was sexually harassed."
Maximilien Robespierre had to lop-off heads and justify his accusations with overlong speeches and rationalizations to silence his opposition. What he wouldn't give for the power now at the hands of Leftist shills!
I've always liked Roy Moore. Unfortunately, I've become more and more of a political athiest. I think the swamp is too thick and full to be drained. Even Ron Paul couldn't get anything done. Check out www.definingthemachine.com for why I'm not expecting any change from the people in Washington, D.C., no matter how well intentioned they are.
Hell. I consider myself an Anarcho-Capitalist. I'd like for there to be no government, and simply free market, and contracts. Yet that is not something I believe is realistic to implement at this time. So I am best described as a Libertarian.
Though really there are some things such as JUSTICE and DOUBLE STANDARD that can be addressed REGARDLESS of political affiliation.
Laws should not be okay for one party, and not the other.
Things done by one should not be okay, when they are wrong for the other.
Evidence is required. Opinion is not evidence.
These are things I can embrace regardless of the candidates.
I actually voted Libertarian or other Third Party in most cases in November of last year. When forced to pick between GOP or DEM I kind of did 50/50. I voted for some of both.
Now, I'd be hard pressed to vote for a DEM. It's not likely with how their party is acting, the hypocrisy, and the corruption of which the evidence is there. Furthermore, I'd likely not vote for an ESTABLISHED GOP. I'd be more interested in a GOP candidate that is not part of the establishment, and I'd seriously look for ACTIONS to make decisions about who to vote for instead of WORDS.
Though there are WORDS that will make me not vote for someone. Diversity is one such word. If ANY candidate mentions the word diversity I'll not vote for them. I believe in meritocracy not artificially enforced diversity.
Also I am a huge Ron Paul fan. Was a delegate for him in 2008 and 2012. :)
Not anything new anymore, even Jesus would be labeled a sexual predictor now days just for laying his hands on to heal!
Not to mention that this girl has a history of drug and alcohol abuse as well as a VERY hard time with any type of "normal" interpersonal male/female relationships. There are a few other items mentioned in several articles I've read such as coming from a broken home and some other things I don't put any stock in... I think it's a setup myself, this guy is a threat to the deep state. I admit to being a bit biased- I supported him when he refused to remove the 10 Commandments.
Nice work , i wished if you started your post about introducing Judge Roy Moore.
Rep./Dem. same bird....
The problem I see is that apox 50% do not vote. Of those that do according to a Gallup poll,31% Dem,and 24%Rep.vs 42% ind. So we have 55% Rep/Dem and majority along with a 50% majority that do not vote.
I know a lot can not vote because they are felons,what sad is that they can run for office and get elected despite not being able to vote.... :-(
Maybe if we all voted for a different bird we could change things.
Same thing every year, turkey or ham.... happy thanks giving same thing same results,pass Me the venison! please and thank you!
Time for a change in the menu!
Namaste!
Which is why I voted for a third party when I had the option. Though right now REP has two clearly different groups. (could argue more than two). The establishment that is pretty much same as DEMs just different label, and those against the establishment (doesn't mean good).
Thank you! for being part of the vocal minority,we are the only one's who change anything!
As history shows.
;-)
The mass's see nothing wrong w/ doing nothing... and it is destroying the world!
Namaste for being!

That describes Angelo Carusone and Media Matters for America to a "T" - the tactics being used to destroy Moore (whose guilt or innocence has not been determined) echoes Hitler's intimidation of his German opposition. Ironic that these Brownshirted thugs call themselves "anti-fascists."It's a political hit job.
One of the whores...er...I mean women who lied about him worked for Hilliary's campaign.
Yep. So I've been hearing.
Yet, they are totally okay with the drag queen festivals that are involving children in various places around the world today.
That is okay?
Yet 30 years ago going through a non-sexual courtship is not... they want Judge Roy Moore to step down, yet they think politicians supporting that crap should stay in office. Disturbing.
I don't find it disturbing.
I find it to be encouraging.
They're panicing.
Trump was right...again.
If any of this is true there will be plenty of witnesses.... this is kind of funny was just released today, claiming he was banned from the local mall in the 80's for harassing young girls http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/roy-moore-banned-ala-mall-targeting-teen-girls-article-1.3630623
Interesting. We'll need to see what actually pans out. 30+ year old, and he has had other controversies where they attacked him. It is kind of interesting this stuff is only JUST NOW popping up.
The dirt only gets dug out of the closet when it's important to do so. Why would any group or person go to all the trouble involved in exposing the dirt, real or not, on someone when there's no reason to do so.
You only attempt to wreck the career of someone when it appears to be important to the opponents to do so.
Great news