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RE: So, you hate money...

in #money6 years ago

I agree with most of this. We live in a capitalist society and it takes money to function. Even "free" services have a cost somewhere.

I also see money as a neutral tool. It's not good or bad, but necessary. Not many things or people are absolutely good or bad. In this world, good people need money to do their good works. That's just how it is.

Where I disagree is I'd love to see a universal income. I would guess that it would stimulate the economy. Also, there's a lot of unpaid and underpaid labor happening. Many people are spending their days doing mind-numbing work to make ends meet. I'd love to see these jobs replaced by robots and automation and let people get to doing the work that preserves humanity.

We monetarily undervalue very important work. Especially the work that has been traditionally been done by women. The people who care for our children and elderly are not well compensated. Parents rush back to work after a baby is born to make ends meet and send their children to be raised by others.

These are things that a basic income could remedy. You made the point about the provider of the income holding power over people. How many people are right now in that exact position with their intimate partners?Financial abuse is a big part of domestic violence. A basic income that takes care of survival needs would make it easier to leave a financially abusive relationship.

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"Financial abuse is a big part of domestic violence. A basic income that takes care of survival needs would make it easier to leave a financially abusive relationship."

I disagree. I have seen these relationships. The controller will be controlling that income as well. Having skills is what would make leaving easier.

I agree with nearly everything else you said. Good comment.

Good point. It's not all about the money with these relationships, it's control. If you were to hand the abused $10,000 to leave, they still may not be able to.

I read an article awhile back that recommended that women have a "fuck off fund." So when your partner seems to turn and become controlling, or your boss does something inappropriate, or your roommate turns into a monster, you don't for a moment have to think about staying in a bad relationship for the financial support. You can instantly tell that partner, roommate, or boss, "fuck off" and you won't be homeless.

I guess that's just emergency savings. It's more fun to call it a fuck off fund though.

I love this idea. Everyone should have a "Fuck off" fund. That word doesn't offend me, but I don't say it often. In this case, it seems perfect.

I think also the UBI will help AFTER they leave the abusive partner, as they no they can leave without facing complete destitution.

I agree we need to preserve humanity and boost up our people in the progress!

Unfortunately we DONT live in a capitalist society. We live in a semi/quasi captalist society that is regulated and money is distributed through theft (taxation). Nothing is of course free, because it is always (of course) paid for by someone. But unlike most people, you actually understands this - which makes you smarter than at least 70% of the dumbed down people in this world.

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