Everyone's making money, no ones getting paid! Read this if you think your gonna get rich on SteemIt

in #money8 years ago (edited)

Hey Steemit Noobs


(Sorry about the cliche pic, but it's makes a points later on)

New users to SteemIt, just want to kinda clear something up.

All these posts you see about users making $1000's of dollars just by posting a small write up aren't 100% accurate.

Yes it's true that within 48 hours of posting, many members are seeing that their posts are worth $1000, $2000 even $10,000 dollars. But it's not like you can take that money to the bank...yet.

From what I've seen, here's how the payout actually happen, and what you can do with them.

1. Approximately 25% of the total post value is paid to the posters account in the form of SteemPower.

Now it's important to understand that while SteemPower is valuable, it's not cash and it won't be for a long time...at least 2 years IF Steem is of any value by then. SteemPower is kind of like holding 'shares' in a company.

**What company in this instance? Steem...the alt coin. **

But #SteemPower or your shares also do what a traditional share does for it's shareholder. It gives you a percentage of power to vote.

So you'll notice lots of users that have very few #upvotes but $1000 post. Why is that? Because the shareholder who upvoted that post was extremely powerful and had a lot of SteemPower. You'll also notice that other users have tons of comments but no post value. Mostly spammers or men ;) The reason for this is that lots of people with no shares or Steempower are upvoting, but it really doesn't amount to much!

2. Approximately 50% of the total post value is paid to the posters account in the form of #SteemDollars.

These are actually as close to real cash as you can get.

Each Steem Dollar is worth about $1USD worth of #Steem the actual coin that can be exchanged for real life paper money (although you probably do 90% of your real life banking electronically anyways which is why alt coins and blockchain are the future).

You'll need a solid Exchange to send your Steem to, and then withdrawl it as cash. Signing up to exchanges requires a lot of verification, so while it's easy, it's still kind of a pain in the butt. But you want your money right?

3. The remaining 25% of the total post value is paid to the upvoters and commenters of your posts.

You'll never see a dime of this money from your posts. But since the payout is quite high, why not start commenting on other people's posts yourself?

$10,000 Post Breakdown of Actual Money Earned


1. 25% of $10,000 = $2500 SteamPOWER.

Nice Job! You'll be able to upvote the shit out of people and make them some money.

2. 50% of $10,000 = $5000 SteamDOLLARS.

Nice job again. Since Steam is worth around $4 at the time of posting this, and each SteamDOLLAR is worth about $1 in Steem that means you have $5000/4 = $1250 in actual value from your post that can be sold or traded off. That's a nice profit.

3. 25% of $10,000 = $2500 goes to the commenters.

Sooooo....

All in all if your post makes $10Grand, which not many do, you'll bank $625 if the value of Steem is high ($4 was high so far) and you'll probably have a bit of a hard time exchanging it if you are new to alt coin.

But if you are committed, you'll keep writing until you make a good post and get some value from it, and you'll figure out how to exchange that for real money.

SteemIt has a ton of value...but don't think you're going to get rich from it. At least yet.

Which type are you? The optimist, or the negative asshole who things everything is a pyramid and a scam?

HM

PS. Seems like the 'hot' girl accounts do quite well ;)

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I haven't looked into it, but I have the impression that the post payout displayed is not calculating comment value. So if you have a post reward 10.000$ then that's 50/50 steem dollars and steem power. Again, I haven't looked that up - but even if it isn't 100% accurate, you can filter the comment payout and only show the author payout through the UI in some future UI update.

I'll do more calculations when I actually make some money, but from my past posts my payouts were where I got my calculations from. I could always be wrong tho...I often am.

Ok, so just got a payout from an article yesterday. It says 0.20$ on the article: https://steemit.com/steem/@alexgr/steem-hardfork-ahead-improvements-in-comment-rewards-liquidity-system-acc-recovery-min-block-size-and-bugfixes

The payout was: 7 minutes ago blogging reward of 0.096 SD and 0.029 STEEM POWER for alexgr/steem-hardfork-ahead-improvements-in-comment-rewards-liquidity-system-acc-recovery-min-block-size-and-bugfixes

This is actually 0.20$ - if not slightly more (haven't checked Steem Dollar prices right now, some times they are 30-40% higher than the dollar). So if there was a 25% for comments, the display on the article (0.20$) would be wrong.

So steem dollar is at 1.15$ right now... and SP is at 3.3$... so...

0.096SD = 0.1104$ and 0.029SP x 3.3$ = 0.0957

total actual sum paid = 0.2061$
post showed 0.20$ payout

I got more, lol.

Ya they don't show past the 2nd decimal. I have posts with less than 1cent payout that show 0. Where's the dam calculator at.

I just edited my article because you were right. It's approx 50% SteemDollars, not SteemPower/

.20 cents payout
.096 SD = 48%
.029 SP = 14.5%

So I'm only off about 5% tho based on your numbers :)

The 0.96 SD = 11.04 cents
The 0.29 SP = 9.57 cents

I think the payout aim was ~0.19$ (9.57cents x2, half-half in SD and SP) but I got more due to steem dollars having a 1.15$ real life value.

Great, simple, and to the point explanation for any newbie. Thanks for that

Most money goes to the whale voter bots.

Ya for anyone else reading this, #minnows are basically people with no or low amounts of SteemPower. When they upvote you, you get basically nothing but a vote and bump on the active charst. #Dolphins have medium steam power and can pass you a few dollars worth bragging about when they upvote you. The #whales are the CEO's and CFO's of the whole thing and one upvote from them can bring a windfall to your posts. Guys like @ned and @dan who are probably getting sick of me tagging them are whales. I've seen their likes generate over $1000 on a single upvote.

Wanna know who to get to upvote your posts? Go here: https://steemd.com/richlist

yeah it would have been nice to be in the inner circle of those who got to build up steem power when there was only a few peeps on here and the price was super low.

I try not to pander, if one of the whales see's my post and upvotes yay, in a year we'll have a lot more steem power than we do now and be considered a dolphin/whale to the noobs joining (I didn't join facebook till it had been up for a couple years)

It's still
Very new !

I am building slowly ! Take brakes , read and write again . It's such valuable platform with interesting topics I would have never seen anywhere else . I am not analyzing much . Just to be here with the first 30k creatives is already exciting enough .

Great analysis. Was looking for something like this to clear me up.

I think it goes like this. if you get 10k that would be 50% for SBD and 50% value of SP(5000$ and somewhat 1000k+SteemPow respectively). The to add, its not Steam. Steem. :)

I know, sorry...I type fast and spell check even faster.

Up voters only get paid in steem power right?

Exactly. :)

Wrong. dollars can be exchanged to BTC directly for over 1 dollars worth of btc. Hence 5k sbd > 5k dollars

Interesting... so we see higher (way higher) numbers than what we actually get IRL. That makes it all seem more real, and make me even more optimistic :) (I already was, even if I didn't think I would become a billionaire in a couple of weeks :) )

I love billionaires...we should hang out.

Steem dollars are available for trade straight to BTC on Poloniex.

the company is the coin but it is also the platform and community we are building around it, Will it be around in 2 years? if it is reddit will be a ghost town by then and steemit will have been the first true success at getting cryptos into the hands of the masses as well as the first "replacement site" the next replacement will hopefully be for facebook (I've heard AMP Synereo could be it)

and if that is true... then how much will each STEEM be worth at that time? 20.$? 100.$

You are 100% correct tho it's not quite as good as it first sounds to a new onlooker.

Thanks ! This was easy for me to understand !

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