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Thank you for this hint, thefruitfultree - indeed both books have been milestones. More important for all of us to realize how these networks are operating - without being used in the White house - is in my opinion Wendy Hoffman ("The Enslaved Queen" & " White Witch in a Black Robe"), a Jewish survivor who was programmed by Joseph Mengele in New York in the 40ies and later. Having so close connections to the 3./4. REICH her books are depicting exactly the modus operandi (including programming techniques) that is still used nowadays in the German speaking countries as well in whole Europe and the US.

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