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RE: Minnowbooster : Sell Your Vote to MB for SBD! Upvote Bot Market (UBM) Revealed!

in #minnowbooster7 years ago (edited)

So eventhough minnowbooster got 2.5 million delegation and constantly voting everything with preposterous daily 6SBD or something. Correct me if I'm Wrong ? You guys still want to buy people's vote for what ? to empower your voting power and business ? It is a quite greedy move to increase public hate to upvote bots you guys upvote ratio is too high and it pollutes the system. At least if you are really determined to continue this nonsense I reccomend you to create a decent and complicated curation projects instead of empowering your business.

I don't think minnowbooster is helping any new users with this program. It makes abusing the system appealing and I don't think it is quite good for the distrubition of wealth in steemit in long term.

I would really want to see you guys using your voting power on some decent curation projects instead of this.

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We have big plans for limiting abuse of the bot and are currently in contact with multiple big curation projects to learn from their experience.

While we don't have all solutions at once we are trying to improve our service gradually and are thankful for your feedback! We are already doing a lot more than other bots for limiting abuse and spam to the system. We watch for cheetah flags and we have a blacklist where spammers can be put on so we refuse service to them. While that does not prevent abuse, it certainly helps it from growing overboard and we hope other bots employ similar measures.

If you have any ideas on how we can improve, I would love to hear them. If there are lists of known abusers you can share, we can add them. If there are signs someone is spamming that don't lock out genuine users, we can detect them. If we are actually able to do it, chances are high we will. We are working with steemcleaners and willl work with other groups who try to keep steem clean of spam.

To the general question if voting bots are good or not for steem, that is not for me to decide. Currently there is a huge discovery problem with steem and bots provide a means to promote your post. I am always happy to discuss improvements of the steem ecosystem and try to fuel the discussion on how we can improve botting and how we can prevent bad bots. Please mention me in posts about that topic should you write one :)

I think you should look @steemcleaners posts if you don't already. Those highlight posts not to support and it will help if no bots do. I wrote a post about that a while ago. Steemcleaner tells you guys what is "bad" but then I went and looked and found a lot of those posts with bot support only! I think if you guys get off those it would be a good step - not just you but all the bots.

At least this is a way to circulate some of the revenue. I will buy votes as I can until my posts are over $10 - then I just let the post payout. At least with your votes, I don't feel like such a loser. I put them on during Day 6 when I do, so they aren't on my feed too long.It helps me and my voters and puts some cash into sp easily. I see no downside and I'm glad you guys are doing this. Get more people to invest because many of them are wasting their voting power as it is.

People buy upvote, but those upvote don't pay for himselve in most cases. @minnowbooster upvote 17$ for 17$ transfer. After a week people get 8.5 to SBD and 8.5 to Power. they have less and less, and eventually have ZERO.

This is autoclining system. It produces and kills problem. Poor get poorer, rich get richer.

Can you back up that you got $17 for a 17 SBD send? That is something that should not happen. We don't allow 17SBD currently and it was probably more like a 9SBD send for a $17 upvote.

If you really got such a vote, show me and I refund you the difference between what you should have gotten and what you got.

Oooo Then sorry. I thought that it's truth

Can you give me more info where you heard this or what vote did not work? Steem is really weird and stuff like this can happen so I want to find the user and compensate them. Generally we try to give you anything from 1.5 to 3 times your send as return so you are always in the green after curation is applied. If steem price changes the upvote value changes too and that can be up or down.

I often see that upvote less than 2x from what people send
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He receive 12.84 upvote()
but sent 8 sbd

Yeah it is still 1.5 times what was send. And probably with a refund of 1SBD or more so it is almost 15. That is the case most of the time. Send me the link and I can check out the case, too lazy to type it out of an image, lol

Yeah I checked it and you got a refund of the difference :) have a nice day 🐐

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