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RE: Is there a God? What is God?
This is an interesting piece but lacking analysis and thought. What i'm getting from this article is a certain concept of God from basic observation and an incooperation of some religious knowledge from one specific religion. Not good enough. This in a way states that God isn't perfect.
Higher Intelligence, which we call God, has to work with humans through other humans.
While this makes sense it contradicts with the bible's perception of God.
My thoughts: We could have been created by a super know-it-all being or by a series of events and not directly but indirectly. Some event or /spontaneous forces may have created the earth and slowly with the right conditions life slowly began to form. Eventually after many years,.......human beings!
you said: This in a way states that God isn't perfect.
I say: Yup
you said: While this makes sense it contradicts with the bible's perception of God.
I say: how so?
you said: We could have been created by a super know-it-all being or by a series of events and not directly but indirectly.
I say: Possibly, but are any of those as likely as that the underlying principle of the Universe is Intelligence?
God can intervene directly through miracles.
But thinking further about it, it does make sense as the bible/torah/koran are made up of rules and commands by God, even in times of war. Those commands (To Kill) were issued rather than God just doing it himself.
Well , in a way , we are part of the universe but intelligence may have been something developed from learning and repetition; not that it existed from the beginning but eitherway the possibilities are endless. This may be a bit off but I would want to hope that there is other life out there in the univ or maybe they have already died out and we (plants and animals) are the last surviving species.
I think I got it now. God is Energy, that is all there is to it, the entire universe, everything is Energy. But I'd call it something else rather than the already establised God.
How do you know god is "perfect and all knowing"? If god was perfect and all-knowing, why did he create imperfection?
Doesn't "learning and repetition" require intelligence?
I'm just going off the conception of God from Monotheist religions, and not of my own perception. In fact, I have no perception. God is a non factor and because we have free will, we can not be used by God. We either follow the teachings/commandments in the religious books which were all crafted from a men thoughts.-or we don't. So helping each other remains our choice.
I'm not sure really, but I don't consider learning through repetition intelligence. Intelligence should be the ability to solve a problem without trial and error. The ability from already acquired trials and errors. It may be stored in our genetic code from our past ancestors. They may have had to start from 0. (No intelligence). Or life could have started from 0 intelligence and develop through trial and error each time, then problem solving information get stored and passed on as we learn.
It has to start at -infinity (not living/unable to learn), to neutral (0) (simple instructions acquired but unable to process information) to
Living(+infinity)(able to adapt, process, analyse, store and reproduce information)
Ps: I just made this up. ;-)
Same here. Not only that their is no evidence but belief systems do not correspond at all with reality. It is highly flawed which is why doctrines relating to a belief system change over time.
Intellgence started from nothing , built from scratch, like a computer programmed to follow instruction and now have evolved (not on their own ofcourse) to self-learning.
They are the building block of intelligence ;-)
90% of Everything I said above is mostly theoretical and should not be taken as factual ;-)
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IMO, the key in what you said is; "not on their own of course" :-)
Further, how do you know (why do you think) "intelligence started from nothing"? Where is the evidence? Can you think of any other real world instance of something irrefutably coming from nothing?
Check my disclaimer above which states:
90% of Everything I said above is mostly theoretical and should not be taken as factual ;-)
Honestly it is hard to understand how something can come from nothing. But for this to not be possible, there should no beginning nor end. The creators of things need to be created by something which was created by something else,....... which was created by something else ........ ....... ........ ....... .....
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