I don't understand whats going on here. I mean I get that someone offered a huge bid to bellyrub, but is there something else going on? Yes...it's not that great of a post. But
Isn't that the nature of SELLING VOTES? It doesn't actually matter how good the post is?
Maybe I'm missing something else. I mean if I'm not missing something else, then how the hell does anyone go about judging which posts were 'good enough' and which ones weren't?
It seems like selling votes is just a weak point in the whole system.
Use SteemTools or SteemReports to see that @freedom delegated a huge amount to this account for posts like this.
Additionally, this post was first written at https://asc.ai/2017/09/06/return-to-love/, dated September 6th, 2017 (it's a repost that they already wrote months ago) Also, @earthnation abused voting/bid bots to push this to Trending.
It seems obvious that mercenary bid bots run steem. Don't like it? Have the developers change the rules. Theres nothing against steemit rules to use bid bots.
What clause makes clear that 17.1.3 only applies to Steemit.com and not to Steem? The services and data on Steemit.com are dependent on Steem. Steemit Inc. are the creators of Steem aren't they? The license for Steem makes clear that Steemit Inc. own the copyright for Steem and thus it is debatable as to whether Steem is a service of Steemit Inc. or not.
I'd say this comes down to the finer points of contract law more than it does an issue of technicality of the kind that all witnesses are required to be qualified to understand.
We are changing some things around, But the market will balance itself out. If they feel it does not deserve such a high reward it will be flagged that is the only way to fix this issue at the moment.
Your stake is being used without regard for content, I believe this goes against the ethos of Steem and create a toxic culture.
I get what you're saying and agree with you. I've been disheartened by all the vote buying bots that came out ever since randowhale. And nobody would voice their opinions due to the retaliation they would likely face for doing so... It seems like the network is not becoming more decentralized because instead of focusing on increasing the value of the network by rewarding user interactivity and engagement the large stake holders are just focused on increasing their stake.
I think the ethos of steem is almost forgotten the more this is accepted by the community.
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I wonder if the people using this service have considered whether the people running these bidding bots could be using the services themselves to monopolize the distribution of voting power.
Monopolize meaning dominate the market by bidding excessively more than everybody else. It can be done by anybody, as it's a bidding market, but if done by the person selling the bids through a "sock-puppet" account it would cost a lot less, since they are already being paid by all the other bids.
I don't understand whats going on here. I mean I get that someone offered a huge bid to bellyrub, but is there something else going on? Yes...it's not that great of a post. But
Isn't that the nature of SELLING VOTES? It doesn't actually matter how good the post is?
Maybe I'm missing something else. I mean if I'm not missing something else, then how the hell does anyone go about judging which posts were 'good enough' and which ones weren't?
It seems like selling votes is just a weak point in the whole system.
Use SteemTools or SteemReports to see that @freedom delegated a huge amount to this account for posts like this.
Additionally, this post was first written at https://asc.ai/2017/09/06/return-to-love/, dated September 6th, 2017 (it's a repost that they already wrote months ago) Also, @earthnation abused voting/bid bots to push this to Trending.
I dont know whats going on.. all I know your nickname is fkin legend :D
Besides the account owner sending in high bids there is nothing else.
nice post.........
It seems obvious that mercenary bid bots run steem. Don't like it? Have the developers change the rules. Theres nothing against steemit rules to use bid bots.
The Terms of Service for Steemit expressly forbids the use of bots - but no-one takes any notice.
Yes these bots are for website purposes bud,
Has nothing to do with the blockchain which is steem, as a witness you should know the difference between steem and steemit inc.
What clause makes clear that 17.1.3 only applies to Steemit.com and not to Steem? The services and data on Steemit.com are dependent on Steem. Steemit Inc. are the creators of Steem aren't they? The license for Steem makes clear that Steemit Inc. own the copyright for Steem and thus it is debatable as to whether Steem is a service of Steemit Inc. or not.
I'd say this comes down to the finer points of contract law more than it does an issue of technicality of the kind that all witnesses are required to be qualified to understand.
We are changing some things around, But the market will balance itself out. If they feel it does not deserve such a high reward it will be flagged that is the only way to fix this issue at the moment.
Ridiculous. @bellyrub should retract their vote and refund the SBD, or even not refund it. We need to make it clear that this is not permitted here.
We will be implementing a fix for this type of abuse with @bellyrub, by ether cutting the vote percentage or implementing a max bid amount.
Abuse like this is not good for the platform, we see that and will act on it.
260 bucks! Really good post(sarcasm). How people earn so much for writing nothing.
great stuff guys, thanks
I don't see their upvote. Besides, isn't every post sponsored by the SP used to upvote it? At least that's how I see the current system works
Edit: other comment has been censored.
Use SteemD or SteemReports to track delegations. @freedom delegated huge SP amount to this account.
I know that. But my other comment was censored so you didn't read it.
What does this mean?
After checking the wallet and seeing your memo
I get what you're saying and agree with you. I've been disheartened by all the vote buying bots that came out ever since randowhale. And nobody would voice their opinions due to the retaliation they would likely face for doing so... It seems like the network is not becoming more decentralized because instead of focusing on increasing the value of the network by rewarding user interactivity and engagement the large stake holders are just focused on increasing their stake.
I think the ethos of steem is almost forgotten the more this is accepted by the community.
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Receive 2.000 SBD from earthnationI wonder if the people using this service have considered whether the people running these bidding bots could be using the services themselves to monopolize the distribution of voting power.
What do you mean by "monopolize the distribution of voting power." ?
Nobody can monopolize voting power beyond the stake they have access to.
Monopolize meaning dominate the market by bidding excessively more than everybody else. It can be done by anybody, as it's a bidding market, but if done by the person selling the bids through a "sock-puppet" account it would cost a lot less, since they are already being paid by all the other bids.
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