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RE: [Discussion] Frankenstein's Monster: A creature of the 19th century, or the Large Language Models of today?
What are some of the feminist motives you've noticed?
I am of the mindset that true artistic works go beyond what the artist intends. While an artist may believe one thing, the work can often speak for itself. As I've heard Jordan Peterson say, (to paraphrase) art is an attempt at answering hard questions. I am not going to say that the work is completely independent of the author's intent, but I think sometimes things appear that were not conceived consciously by the creator - as is the case made by this story. I do not think Frankenstein intended his monster to do what it does.
Hi! Perhaps I have misunderstandable expressed myself: I myself do not find the novel motivated to be feminist. But there are interpretations that want to read out exactly that. For example, the almost complete lack of female actors should be an expression of the oppressed and less influential role of women within 1818, ie at the time of "Frankenstein". In addition, it would be rumored that male creation leads to destruction and violence. Which is certainly not to be dismissed in terms of weapons and military technology etc. ...
And yes, that's exactly what I mean: Frankenstein didn't want to create a monster. However, he did not think that there was an opportunity. How today's people experiment with viruses without thinking about possible dangerous applications. Or rely on nuclear power without calculating accidents and nuclear waste in advance ...
Hi! Vielleicht habe ich mich mißverständlich ausgedrückt: ich selber empfinde den Roman nicht als feministisch motiviert. Es gibt aber Interpretationen, die genau das herauslesen wollen. So soll z.B. das nahezu vollständige Fehlen weiblicher Handlungsträger Ausdruck für die unterdrückte und einflußlose Rolle der Frau innerhalb der Gesellschaft um 1818 herum, also zur Entstehungszeit von "Frankenstein", sein. Außerdem würde kolportiert, daß männlicher Schaffensdrang sichtbar zu Zerstörung und Gewalt führt. Was sicher in Bezug auf Waffen und Militärtechnik etc. nicht einmal von der Hand zu weisen ist...
Und ja, genau das meinte ich: Frankenstein wollte kein Monster schaffen. Er dachte aber nicht darüber nach, daß die Möglichkeit besteht. Wie die heutigen Menschen mit Viren herum experimentieren, ohne sich Gedanke über mögliche gefährliche Anwendungen zu machen. Oder setzen auf Atomkraft, ohne vorab Störfälle und Atommüll zu kalkulieren...