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RE: Guns in America, the 2nd Ammendment, and the desire to keep people safe
LOL, this is one of my favorite flavors of rants you hear from people calling for gun control, the one where they call for all the laws that we already have that didn't work. A doctor already has to report a dangerous patient and anyone adjudicated as insane is not allowed to buy a legal gun and anyone convicted of domestic violence or a felony has a lifetime legal gun ban.
None of these type of things work because they only impact the 99.9997% of gun owners who don't commit gun crimes, not the 1 in 10,000 people who is a habitual gun criminal.
The background check is a joke, nothing happens if you fail so if you have ill intent then you can go buy a gun on the black market. What is the point?
You do realize that we do not have a uniform system of database in which all members selling firearms can access across the entire country right? Aside from the basic background check system that is used there is nothing that currently prohibits a mentally ill individual from posessing a firearm. I agree with you that the problem is not with the legal and lawful gun owners. However, the point is... we can do better to protect those innocent people who end up being targeted by a mentally unstable person weilding a firearm with intent to do harm. For us as gun owners to simply stick out heads in the sand and say "not my guns" is an old and outdated concept. As gun owneers we have to come to the table and work to find solutions. If we fail to do that then laws and anti firearm laws will be enacted and rightly so... because we didn't sit at the table and work out a reasonable compromise. You are welcome to be flippant and derriding of this viewpoint, but by not ntering into a real dialogue nothing will ever get solved but more unnecessary gun laws that already do not stop the criminal element from obtaining weapons....including stolen firearms from lazy, non engaging firearm owners. instead of opening your mouth to condemn the effort maybe you should add ideas to this conversation... you know help develop ideas that work, that would be a step in the right direction. I agree with you though, a person intent of using a firearm in the act of comitting a crime is going to find a way to do so....but the point is that we make it as difficult as possible for that individual to carry out their intent...
False, we have had a nationwide NICS system of background checks, a database maintained by the FBI.
Except of course for the federal law that prohibits anyone adjudicated as mentally ill from possessing a firearm.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/identify-prohibited-persons
Good, that is a great place for us to find common ground.
But my point was that failing a background check does not make it difficult for someone who is not allowed to possess a gun to buy one, it just delays them a little at best. The kids at the middle school I taught at could all get a gun delivered with a text in 20 minutes or know someone who could if they ever wanted one. I can't believe that a person who had intent to commit mass murder would simply give up if they were denied a gun sale so the whole idea seems silly to me. The problem with your idea of wanting to go to the table and compromise is problematic because that is saying that gun control is in fact a solution to the problem of crazy people on drugs that cause suicidal actions going on shooting sprees. Maybe if someone is too crazy and dangerous to buy a gun they are too crazy and dangerous to walk around and buy gasoline and chains and rent Home Depot trucks?