I've been tracking the cases in each country, at first the numbers were barely changing every four days, then it started changing every two days now we are down to changing every day with five new countries added today. Still no known cases listed number wise for NK yet. I am surprised how low the numbers are for places like Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia since they've been on the list. It's not like they are the most sanitary places in the world yet their numbers have stayed consistent or maybe have grown by one or two people since 2/8. It wouldn't surprise me if they held down numbers afraid of a shut down on their countries. Then there is the 691 others with no known mention of where those others are.
One other thing that bothered me was this specialist they had on Dr Oz who said they would be asking people who felt sick to come in for testing rather than if they discovered people who had the virus ask for a quarantine for fear people would take off out of those area's yet those people who tested positive would have been in contact with a whole lot of other people before being diagnosis-ed and those others would be out infecting others before they became to sick to go to the hospital. By then it's to late and the end result will be the same, a quarantine will be issued. I think it will just take one large city here in the US to start seeing cases multiply that will set off panic buying.
Last week I went out and stocked up on Tylenol, Ibuprofen and flu medication. I evidently am not the only one as the stock for the largest size bottles were down to about ten, the whole section was slim pickings and the double wrapped bonus buy bottles were nearly depleted, usually those are the ones you see a lot of stock of because in reality who really needs to be buying bottles with hundreds of pills wrapped in a two bottle discount savings wrapper....that's a whole lot of pills, you'd think anyone needing that many would be poisoning their liver to death. You couldn't even find a daytime flu med, all there was left were the night time bottles. Researching and pricing mask were the same, most are already out of stock and listed as unable to get from the manufacture. I am like you, I highly doubt I'll survive this if it strikes here, we have several people in the immediate family I don't think will either, two have asthma, including a grandson, his grandpa has a autoimmune disease that if he lives till next year Nov he'll be the longest surviving person in the US whose ever had the disease, and his son in his twenties was born with a host of complicated stuff whereas now he has a pace maker. The good news is I have a twenty five hundred square feet of a duplex so taking in twelve people will still be rough if a quarantine were to be issued but we won't be totally squished as if I left it up to my kids to prepare for any perceived upcoming disaster we'd all die so this will be quarantine central for us. I think my mom and step dad will be okay, probably safer than being with us given they live in a small town north of here. I told her over the weekend to just go get the mask, what's the worse than can happen then you may end up tossing them but don't wait for a rush to happen. I am researching what foods have natural antibiotic properties to incorporate into a potential three month stock of food items if I feel over the next couple weeks I need to start taking that measure. Three months was all I could handle thinking about right now as any further preparation to feed twelve people beyond that was quite overwhelming. I am only thinking about this because I feel I am being forced to given that what we see happening is nothing like we've ever seen before. I want to have that list in hand so if I do I don't find myself out running around not knowing what it will take to survive for us and end up just grabbing stuff off a shelf. Just thinking about the amount of toilet paper we'll need is giving me a headache...lol. In the end though, like you said, what's the worse that can happen if we end up not needing it it's not like we can't use the stuff, including the mask to do drywall or mix cement. If I have time to get that all in place without a rush by that point I think we'll know what the inevitability will stand and at that point I'll get a few games to add to collection, some cards and other activities to keep the grand kids from driving us insane and ourselves for that matter. The weather could warm up and this could start to die down if that doesn't seem to be the pattern taking shape then it's better to be implementing a worse case scenario.
I'm in 'ground zero', as it were, and apart from the fact I don't believe single authority on any straight information anyway, my own interpretation of the lack of increased cases in Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam .....Is temperature.
That 'ole corona don't like it too hot, and a cold day in winter is around 20 degrees C. (68 degrees in silly temperature numbers. lol)
It's only my interpretation, and could be complete bollocks of course.
I knew my semi recluse lifestyle would pay dividends! lolol
That probably is more likely what it is since that is exactly what they are hoping will happen when the temperature starts to warm up that the virus will slow and dissipate, if it does it may not come back or at least not with the force we see now. I've seen claims that each year a virus resurrects itself it's not as strong or severe as the first year....I don't know if that's true or not. It'll open up some more time toward figuring out a corona's sequencing and possibly a vaccine....unless of course this is some man made virus, at this point seeing things we've never seen before occurring I don't think one can shut their eyes completely on that quite yet. At least I've never seen anything quite like this. I am just in a basic protection mode, set up a defensive line...medicine, mask, the rest is basically a well organized list of crucial food items that if I had to make a mad dash to the stores at least it'll be a organized mad dash.
We are pretty lucky here.
Have a garden producing food and plenty of land to grow on, so not too many worries on that front. Everything grows easily. (if you look at a pebble in the morning, it will be a boulder by night fall. lol)
I'm thinking man made more than natural, tbh.
The death rates (if they are to be believed), means that it's not gonna be too bad, (in relative terms), but the worlds economy will be fucked.
With high infection rates (the biggest problem), it will make the transition for world governments very easy.
More control, more authoritarianism, moving to all crypto ect etc.
It's wet dream for those people. (which brings me back to an engineered virus..)
I was back to the engineering theory myself last night, not in regards to some act towards authoritarianism but that someone goofed up in a lab over there in China and carried out a lab engineered virus. It being engineered, whether to use to develop a vaccine or to create a virulent duplicate to try and stay ahead of future mutations to test up against vaccines, my guess would be one of those two as, so far, leading indicators (reading between what you are hearing and what they are saying) tends to lean toward the lab that was being used to find a vaccine vs the lab that was being used for bio-weaponry. When they came out with a definite distinction last night as saying cold and flu season could become cold, flu and COVID19 season, not corona virus season that lent credence to the possibility that COVID19 was not your usual corona virus springing forth from nature.
The death rates in relative terms is alarming considering the death rates from the flu globally. With the proposed number that forty to seventy percent of people on the planet will get the virus and the death rate is two percent, if you take the highest probability of seventy percent but lower the death rate down to even one quarter of the projected two percent out of a population of five hundred and twenty four billion people twenty seven million people will die of it with one million of those deaths in the US alone, that's way above the eighty thousand dying from the flu.
Back to what you were saying yesterday about warmer temperatures...with spring just around the corner it surprised me that the CDC came out yesterday with warnings for Americans to start preparing for a outbreak as it's a matter of when not if a outbreak is going to occur. Which would push my call out to family members to gather to decide what we want to do a couple weeks faster than I assume it could potentially happen. Then there were accusations that the democrats were behind it to spread propaganda the president wasn't doing his job all the while they are the ones holding up the emergency funding. Now today the announce a stewardess was flying back and forth from Seoul to Los Angles while infected seems more likely for the call out. Plus there was one government expert when asked last night if he knew how many people in the US are already infected (as the question was posed in a manner as to mean outside of those we already know about) he answered yes but evaded giving a number and went blabbering on about preparations are now in the works to keep hospital's fully functional so unlike in China people aren't at home dying of a heart attack because there's no access to medical care because of the virus, which would explain why they are opening more air bases and looking for large empty buildings to staff and house those with corona virus. For some reason I highly doubt they'd be going through all this if they thought warmer weather was going to chase this virus away or that this was anything other than lab engineered.
For some reason I highly doubt they'd be going through all this if they thought warmer weather was going to chase this virus away or that this was anything other than lab engineered.
VERY good point, and blows my theory out of the water.
I agree with your perspective more than my theory, unfortunately.
Looking at it from the 'great conspiracy' angle, the bio weapon, timing, the end of current central bank money cycle, and the deep state 'on the back foot', somewhat lends itself to it being an orchestrated de-population event.
....the last desperate roll of the dice, by authoritarian psycho's
More scientist are coming out leaning that this is potentially a bio lab virus but so far lean more in favor of a bio laboratory and not a bio weaponry laboratory. The prospects they still feel a vaccine can be developed to fight it gives some what of a reassurance that at this point they don't feel they are up against some robo cop like virus that holds the potential to destroy humankind. When you think about it if they were up to dastardly deeds to reduce the population you'd think they'd set it off in countries with out of control birthrates and enable it to inflict more damage than at the rate of new births annually as twenty seven million deaths projected globally pales in comparison that there is over one hundred million births annually, actually closer to one hundred and fifty million. Stay vigilant though as the last couple days they've been adding the warmer climate countries to the list.
The old and the 'higher IQ's', are the targets....need a young, dumb , population, for easier control.
StupidSmart phone, anyone? lolI hope your interpretation is spot on, and the tropics remain unsullied by this scourge.
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Better, IMHO, to be realistic and take appropriate steps to be secure.
Honey. Before the penicillin revolution, it was a common addition to poultices and the like.
It's a great antibiotic. I dunno how you can try to stock up for 12 ppl for 3 months. You're a blessing to them as you're thinking of if you can do it.
Can't they bring their own toilet paper, and similar dry goods, for a 3 month stay? That'd take some of the burden off of you.
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Yeah I seen that, particularity Manuka honey, garlic, oregano and cabbage was another big contender. I don't know so much about stocking cabbage as the only way would be to can it and then there's a question of how much of it's properties it loses in the process. Apple cider vinegar was another good one.
Like I said we'd all die first before you could get them to understand the severity of the situation. I have gotten them to agree to get some mask. I just dropped one off at a doctors appointment and she said why would you start stocking up for twelve people and I said are you going to start buying a little extra here and there to stock up just in case and she said no. I just tried to convey to her that this is something we've never seen before and taking small steps just in case isn't a bad idea. I am not at the point yet whereas thinking I have to rush to get all this done, I think there is still time on our side so small steps of preparation is better than no steps of preparation. There's really among all of combined a lack of monetary resources if we had to pull together to do a mass buying if the threat were approaching much faster. Three of them get large sums of money every two weeks from their Indian tribes, if it started becoming much more obvious and spreading through their social media accounts through friends they'd trust what I have been building up enough to say and hand it over without argument, with that kind of money and my savvy shopping habits we would survive a year.