what is their to be optimistic about... the endless wars for money, what about the fact the entire planet is really a fascist paradise.... i could go on...
the vast majority of people are not even interested in trying to stop their corrupted out of control governments because they got the latest sport scores and iphones that are really weapons of mass distraction...
as for fighting - i don't fight anymore, i just tell the truth.
I get what you mean and I feel this futility at times also. That we will never get out of this prison.
All dictatorships end though. All of them. They suck up the metaphorical light to feed on and then they collapse under their own weight again. I think that's why Luther King said what he said about the universe being tilted towards justice.
you know i read a book called history of the dissenters published shortly after the french revolution by a british minister which detailed how the french revolution was faked in order to usher out into the world the various forms of government to give hope and the illusion of choice to the populations.
the same elite class put forth the magna carta some 600 years earlier to give the people some hope when hope doesn't exist..
we live in a dictatorship in a secretive world governing authority as it is sure a hell of a lot easier to rule in secret than in the public eye.
so point your fingers at who your told to point your finger at and cheer when a new public leadership is presented which touts change for the more things seem to change the more things remain the same.
the entire planet is screwed and not a damn thing anyone will do will ever change that fact.
I totally get why you think we're screwed. Especially if we consider we've possibly been ruled over secretly for thousands ofof years myears. I wouldn't be surprised if a great deal of our history was skewed and slanted and smoked and mirrored.
But then on the other hand I think that we are more onto them now than maybe we have ever been in the past. Perhaps they are the kind of "rulers" who can only do so from afar and scurry away when you turn the light on. It's what I'm going with, anyway.
i can prove a secretive world governing authority exists sue... for thousands of years the secret government has numbered the planet according to fish using hermetic knowledge while teaching within their secret societies that the numbering is necessary and part of gods plan.. once you understand the numerology and associated hermetism you can easily track them and their activities. i have traced them back to over 3500 bc and i am sure they go back much further...
they have written religions, invented types of government, caused every single war, famine and view themselves as civilization builders...
they control every single government, religious organization, economic interest, etc...
example: a lot of people think trump was going to 'drain the swamp' however, trump wasn't elected but selected decades in advance as a patsy for the fall of america.
You seem determined to spend a great deal of your energy in trying to get everyone else to feel as fatalistic as you do.
I honestly get why you're feeling like there's no hope but geez, I'm not about to put a bullet in my head anytime soon on the assumption that we will be forever controlled. If that's how you think, fine, but I dunno how you're getting out of bed in the morning. And why you're bothering to write all these comments. If it's all really as pointless as you say, then why bother writing all these comments at all? Is it because you feel anger at anyone else who isn't convinced it's futile and so you want to absolve them of hope, or what?
get real... just over 50 years ago, millions of people were organized and those organized marched in the streets demanding change. it was a proud moment to be arrested protesting back then and every single person under the age of 30 knew the governments were corrupted and look what happened...
the hippy free love movement was easily squashed by the elite class and that movement was millions upon millions of time larger than anything today.
now protests draw a couple of hundred people and the freedom moments are small, unorganized and uneventful.
if anything fascism has gown to the point where it's admired by the consumerist society we live in and the minuscule few people which want change all group together patting each other on the back instead of printing flyers, organizing, getting out into the streets to protest and converting those who still think they live in a free system.
Nope. Before shrub invaded Iraq, literally millions protested in streets all over the world. And that wasn't 50 years ago.
But it didn't do any good, the death merchants got their way (which seems to make your point, but keep reading).
Now it's getting tougher, activists are getting hurt, jailed and killed. I'm one of those, and I live in Canada, believe it or not.
Notwithstanding that, there are good people standing up on their hind legs, and that's the only thong that works.
Sometimes that takes a form other than getting gassed and clubbed in the street.
by your own admission you made my point. ain't a damn thing can be done to stop the tyranny so why bother fighting.. it's not like they got plans for 12 out of 13 people on the planet...
yup... and you know why... the vast majority of the populations are completely oblivious to how horrible the systems are.... so give them a taste of real in your face totalitarianism for a few decades, take away every stitch of freedom, force the hard reality of no freedom upon them and give them a lesson that will never ever be forgotten so they never ever allow corrupted government ever again.
the usa and britain are so damn close to that reality and only need an 'event' to ply the public into total and absolute control.
also, you know whose going to ask for the freedoms to be taken away... the public and they will applaud and cheer when it happens.
Right that "the populations are completely oblivious", you nailed it dead center.
But it's hard to blame people for that when they are fed poo right from birth, and are saturated in it their entire lives.
Wrong that a dose of tyranny will fix anything; it never has. Look at all the major revolutions, the French, US, Russian - they all failed.
Not, if you accept the official story.
But in reality, the snakes sleazed in before the blood dried.
But there have been successes to varying degrees in some arenas. Cuba, Iran, contemporary Russia, Venezuela; there have been social improvements.
So it can be done.
But it takes perseverance and guts.
Speaking of which, what about you.
You're obviously intelligent, and perceptive - but defeated.
You need fire in your belly.
Have a look at Eleanor Goldfield in that link I gave you (Actup), Caitlin Johnstone, and tons of others.
If you lie down and roll over, that's what the fascists want.
Resistance is not futile, it's the only thing that works.
what is their to be optimistic about... the endless wars for money, what about the fact the entire planet is really a fascist paradise.... i could go on...
the vast majority of people are not even interested in trying to stop their corrupted out of control governments because they got the latest sport scores and iphones that are really weapons of mass distraction...
as for fighting - i don't fight anymore, i just tell the truth.
I get what you mean and I feel this futility at times also. That we will never get out of this prison.
All dictatorships end though. All of them. They suck up the metaphorical light to feed on and then they collapse under their own weight again. I think that's why Luther King said what he said about the universe being tilted towards justice.
Hang in, bro.
"they collapse under their own weight again"
no
not without help
(that's where we come in)
you know i read a book called history of the dissenters published shortly after the french revolution by a british minister which detailed how the french revolution was faked in order to usher out into the world the various forms of government to give hope and the illusion of choice to the populations.
the same elite class put forth the magna carta some 600 years earlier to give the people some hope when hope doesn't exist..
we live in a dictatorship in a secretive world governing authority as it is sure a hell of a lot easier to rule in secret than in the public eye.
so point your fingers at who your told to point your finger at and cheer when a new public leadership is presented which touts change for the more things seem to change the more things remain the same.
the entire planet is screwed and not a damn thing anyone will do will ever change that fact.
I totally get why you think we're screwed. Especially if we consider we've possibly been ruled over secretly for thousands ofof years myears. I wouldn't be surprised if a great deal of our history was skewed and slanted and smoked and mirrored.
But then on the other hand I think that we are more onto them now than maybe we have ever been in the past. Perhaps they are the kind of "rulers" who can only do so from afar and scurry away when you turn the light on. It's what I'm going with, anyway.
i can prove a secretive world governing authority exists sue... for thousands of years the secret government has numbered the planet according to fish using hermetic knowledge while teaching within their secret societies that the numbering is necessary and part of gods plan.. once you understand the numerology and associated hermetism you can easily track them and their activities. i have traced them back to over 3500 bc and i am sure they go back much further...
they have written religions, invented types of government, caused every single war, famine and view themselves as civilization builders...
they control every single government, religious organization, economic interest, etc...
example: a lot of people think trump was going to 'drain the swamp' however, trump wasn't elected but selected decades in advance as a patsy for the fall of america.
You seem determined to spend a great deal of your energy in trying to get everyone else to feel as fatalistic as you do.
I honestly get why you're feeling like there's no hope but geez, I'm not about to put a bullet in my head anytime soon on the assumption that we will be forever controlled. If that's how you think, fine, but I dunno how you're getting out of bed in the morning. And why you're bothering to write all these comments. If it's all really as pointless as you say, then why bother writing all these comments at all? Is it because you feel anger at anyone else who isn't convinced it's futile and so you want to absolve them of hope, or what?
go ahead and waste your time fighting what can't possibly be won.
i really don't give a shit...
"the entire planet is really a fascist paradise"
WRONG
most of the entire planet is really a fascist paradise
otherwise there wouldn't be us
and it is 'us' that have always made the difference
telling the truth is fighting
but we need a little bit more than that; laying down and rolling over just makes it easy for them
is that what you want
Is that who you are
I don't get that about you
read some of this stuff
https://steemit.com/@revotingpeasant
get real... just over 50 years ago, millions of people were organized and those organized marched in the streets demanding change. it was a proud moment to be arrested protesting back then and every single person under the age of 30 knew the governments were corrupted and look what happened...
the hippy free love movement was easily squashed by the elite class and that movement was millions upon millions of time larger than anything today.
now protests draw a couple of hundred people and the freedom moments are small, unorganized and uneventful.
if anything fascism has gown to the point where it's admired by the consumerist society we live in and the minuscule few people which want change all group together patting each other on the back instead of printing flyers, organizing, getting out into the streets to protest and converting those who still think they live in a free system.
Nope. Before shrub invaded Iraq, literally millions protested in streets all over the world. And that wasn't 50 years ago.
But it didn't do any good, the death merchants got their way (which seems to make your point, but keep reading).
Now it's getting tougher, activists are getting hurt, jailed and killed. I'm one of those, and I live in Canada, believe it or not.
Notwithstanding that, there are good people standing up on their hind legs, and that's the only thong that works.
Sometimes that takes a form other than getting gassed and clubbed in the street.
Here are a couple more links:
https://leecamp.com/
https://www.occupy.com/categories/act-out
by your own admission you made my point. ain't a damn thing can be done to stop the tyranny so why bother fighting.. it's not like they got plans for 12 out of 13 people on the planet...
If everyone says
"ain't a damn thing can be done to stop the tyranny so why bother fighting",
they win.
Is that OK with you?
yup... and you know why... the vast majority of the populations are completely oblivious to how horrible the systems are.... so give them a taste of real in your face totalitarianism for a few decades, take away every stitch of freedom, force the hard reality of no freedom upon them and give them a lesson that will never ever be forgotten so they never ever allow corrupted government ever again.
the usa and britain are so damn close to that reality and only need an 'event' to ply the public into total and absolute control.
also, you know whose going to ask for the freedoms to be taken away... the public and they will applaud and cheer when it happens.
You're right, and wrong.
Right that "the populations are completely oblivious", you nailed it dead center.
But it's hard to blame people for that when they are fed poo right from birth, and are saturated in it their entire lives.
Wrong that a dose of tyranny will fix anything; it never has. Look at all the major revolutions, the French, US, Russian - they all failed.
Not, if you accept the official story.
But in reality, the snakes sleazed in before the blood dried.
But there have been successes to varying degrees in some arenas. Cuba, Iran, contemporary Russia, Venezuela; there have been social improvements.
So it can be done.
But it takes perseverance and guts.
Speaking of which, what about you.
You're obviously intelligent, and perceptive - but defeated.
You need fire in your belly.
Have a look at Eleanor Goldfield in that link I gave you (Actup), Caitlin Johnstone, and tons of others.
If you lie down and roll over, that's what the fascists want.
Resistance is not futile, it's the only thing that works.