The Great Debate #1 - Alex Jones.
Steemit seems to be a fantastic place for open discussion with people from all around the world.
I would love to start a series of debate posts where we can all discuss different subjects from all view points.
I can't imagine a more controversial character than Alex Jones, host of the infowars news program.
In case you don't know who Alex Jones is.. some may call him a crazy conspiracy theorist.. some call him an American hero.
His news broadcast has grown rapidly over the last 15-20 years.. and some of the stuff he is saying is totally outlandish.
He talks about sex changing chemicals in the water, pedophiles in the government.. and boy did he do a job on Hillary Clinton.. many people credit Jones with getting Donald Trump elected.
Donald Trump has been on his show, he has generals, politicians, ex military and ex CIA on his show regularly.
Is there something too this? Is what he has been screaming to the world for the last 20 years, indeed true?
I propose we have an open debate about this, posting videos, documents, links and evidence from both sides of the debate.
Only evidence, along with logic and reason will win the argument.
To get this post going.. i will send $5 steem to 3 random responders.
I will choose at least 3 people to receive the reward.. whoever i find posting the most useful or insightful information.. and if this post does well.. i may just give out a few extra rewards for good comments ;)
So..
What do you think of Alex Jones Of infowars.com?
Thank you for your work, Alex Jones. We need more peolple like you!
God bless Alex Jones!!
Hi @jimbojones if I remember correctly you are are in Australia. It's cool that people in Australia are watching stuff like Alex Jones and his shows.
Well.. I'm an American myself and I've known about Alex Jones for maybe 9 or 10 years now.
He's from Texas which is is like half southern culture (east Texas) and half western culture (west Texas).
Alex Jones is sort of a mix of both. Btw, that's just my opinion as a person who has spent a substantial amount of time in the south (Mississippi) and the north (Iowa and Illinois).
You might be thinking why is all that northerner, southerner and western stuff a factor?
Well, its because people in these regions are typically brought up in very different worlds (yes, even in 2017 and probably for many, many years to come). A person like Alex Jones may have a view point on America which others in country might not be able to relate or even imagine as being what they know as America (that includes present day and thoughts regarding America's troubled past).
I watch Alex Jones on Youtube sometimes and I often find some his (and his crew's) news to be entertaining and sometimes worth looking further into certain stories.
Like all news (including mainstream) there are some inherent problems. For example, they are all trying to report the LATEST BREAKING NEWS (this includes Alex Jones and his crew of reporters) and in doing so they often get some of the details wrong at first. This happens with all news. Later on down the road Alex Jones is sometimes called out for being wrong (and being a fearmonger) about stuff while the mainstream media gets a free pass.
Lastly, politics (and culture) in the United States is like a football game. It's a two party system and the average American thinks that all ideas, viewpoints, and positions on just about every topic have to fit into either the blue team or the red team.
That has always seem outright loony to me but what can I do? I just be myself and try not to let the two party system get to me too much. That being said, Alex Jones and his show is interesting to watch even if just to get a different perspective on things.
So many good points :)
I can imagine the East Texas / West Texas thing.. i have lived in many parts of Australia and i have seen many different people who live in all kinds of worlds.
What is the difference between the two, religious ideologies?
And i think pointing out about info wars trying to break news.. just like any news station or news paper they are in a rush to get that story off.. and well sometimes the facts just get in the way.. or might not even be available at the time.
From what i have seen in America.. the two party system has been replaced by a series of corporate lobbying interests.. that's who makes the laws now.
I am in Australia yes :)
I cant get over his annoying voice
@jimbojones
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Jones and inforwars is hardly someone I could recommend for a news, political opinion, and commentary platform. However, its extremely entertaining watching him yell about inter dimentional child molester while he flails around turning red in the face. They may be politically powerful child molesters out there but Jones method of "exposing the truth" is so essentric that he makes it seem like a parody, and disscredits every conspiracy that he touches. I think He does more harm then good in the conspiracy sector by delegitimizing real corruption. It seems he gets 1 in 10 claims in conspiracies correct, which I guess is a certain form of success.
" is so essentric that he makes it seem like a parody, and disscredits every conspiracy that he touches".
^^^ I think that's one of the main reasons Alex hasn't been killed off. He can be dismissed. I wonder if that is a conscious tactic on Alex's part. I think he's intelligent enough to use such a tactic.
Going back 10 years I felt that my girlfriends mother was a crackpot for being into Alex Jones. In the last year I've started listening to Alex Jones almost daily, and what I've come to realise is that a lot of what he says is actually true. The usual instinct is to conclude that what he's saying is so crazy, so you don't bother to check the references he provides. When you actually go to check, it often turns out that he's spot on.
We live in a world where even looking into conspiracy theories is considered to be nuts. For the longest time I thought the Federal Reserve and New World Order conspiracies were insane... and then I actually read books on the issue and the theories are actually facts which can be backed up by the key players involved.
People like Alex present more truth than any "MSM" organisation. We need people like him, because our world is certainly becoming an Orwellian nightmare at a rapid pace.
Thats an intresting point, however its not how often that hes right or wrong that is my main concern. Its that his method speaking in screaming-dramatic-monologes looks to the average person to be just an insane person, thus people associate, say pizza gate for example to be an idea harbored by lunatics, even though there may be credible evidence of a child sex abuse ring in politics. Now that hes famous has alienated an even larger portion of the general population that may not have dissmised pizza gate had a calm and collected case been made by someones else.
That's a really good clip.. from what i have seen on Jones's show he really limits talking about aliens and demons.. although i think he really believes in alot of this stuff.
I think what he believes in may be similar to David Icke.. might have to have one of these discussions about him too ;)
Although 1 in 10.. i think that may be a bit high?
Having been a researcher in the deep state machinations for over 30 years, I can say with certainty that I believe Jones to be controlled opposition. However, that said, I believe Jones is a great stepping stone for people waking up from the zombie nightmare and peaking into the true light of day. Lots of what Jones reports is true and important for people to know who have just been listening to mainstream baloney their whole lives. Jones provides a service in that way: infowars is like freshman liberal arts class, the first step in opening one's mind to the wide wide multiverse and beginning to peel away the socially engineered veil. Thank you AJ! Also, I enjoy him in spurts on an entertainment level and I also take his Brain Force supplement regularly because it truly is the best neotropic on the market for the price. What do other folks think!? Thanks for the fun discussion.
I can agree to some extent, whilst at least some of the info he provides seems accurate and insightful, I have heard, and seen evidence, that he is a CIA plant. If I can find some of that evidence again, I will post it here
Yes, please do :)
I have heard he is a plant.. although most people base this on the fact he doesn't rag on the Jews very much.
Although he does when needed to i don't really buy that.. he just doesn't think they control the world like some people do. It's a big mix of houses, special interest groups and other factions all vying for position.
I have thought about this alot.
If Alex Jones is a plant.. his only purpose can be to start a war or revolution.. there would be no other point in what he's doing.. unless i am missing something.
The only thing he does is spread information and get people riled up.. so his end goal must be to start a war or revolution.. if he indeed is a plant.
Got any evidence on him being a plant?
You re probably right about the power groups but now he doesnt have a problem mentioning groups anymore. It's all just the left, Hillary Clinton, and the DNC allied with islam that runs the world.
Alex Jones current effect weather willingly or not is to polarize the people, exemplified by what happened in Charlottesville the other day.
An interesting book on the topic of the competing power groups : Scarlett and the Beast
by John Daniels (available as pdf with a google search)
Dont be scared away by the christian overtones if you are not a christian, there is deep historical research in the book.
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STOPAfter watching some of his videos, I realized that I can't connect with him as a person. I simply do not have the fear context that is so prevelant in his presentations.
My brother can't stand his voice.. Alex has a very strong personality i bet that would drive many of people away.
Keep it up! Thanks for all you do, I'll follow you.
Thank you much appreciated :)
LOL Alex doing a report on Michelle Obama being a tranny..
Man this can be so true :). Yes when you think of this , there is something about this. And that moment when she is going out of the car ... bizzare ...
I wander what about the Serena Williams , she looks like one too also.
I mean she is stronger than many male tennis players. Hitting the ball 200 km/h...