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RE: Life Secrets

in #life6 years ago

"Anyone who thinks they've got life all figured out is suffering from a psychedelic drug deficiency."

This makes sense to me Chris. The prophets had doubts about themselves and the prophets had access to psychedelics too! I'm not saying they took them, I don't know, but it's possible and likely. I'm not saying psychedelics are the only way, but they inevitably expand horizons and challenge the notion that things are fixed, set, ordered and controllable.

I read your open letter to CJ a while back...you report a similar experience with mushrooms yourself, going from a 'staunch atheist' to an experience of Divinity and essentially your own divine nature, starting you off on your current journey....isn't it?

I'd love to see an experiment whereby they put MDMA in a city's water system and check out the effect on crime, on human interactions - it would be a revolution/revelation!

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Touché. You make a good point. Please allow my to clarify.

The idea I am objecting to in this piece is that there is no actual real truth in this world. Caitlin is walking a dangerous path that essentially leads to a nihilistic way of thinking. Later on in the article Caitlin says,

"Since nobody really knows what's going on and everyone's making it up as they go along..."

and,

"if you search for truth you won't find any"

But there really is truth! And there is a self! And there is a real difference between good and evil! Some things are actually good, and some things are actually bad, and we can tell the difference between them. We can tell when something bad is being done to another person, and it isn't hard either. When we see the pictures of children starving in Yemen, and when we hear the explanation of what is being done to them, we know whether to call this good or bad. We understand the truth of this situation.

This is what I object to about Caitlin's analysis in this piece. It is unequivocally untrue to say there is no such thing as truth.

(As a side note, I didn't identify myself as a "staunch atheist" but a "staunch agnostic", and I absolutely reject the idea that my experience had anything to do with my "own divine nature". The experience I had was with the divine, and the divine was absolutely distinct and separate from myself.)

This is what I object to about Caitlin's analysis in this piece. It is unequivocally untrue to say there is no such thing as truth.

Is she saying that? Neither of the quoted statements imply that there is no such thing as Truth, and I can't find such a thought in the context. You seem to have read a lot of her stuff, would you really say this is a representative statement that she does not hold that there is such a thing as 'Truth'? I'm not speaking for her, but posts by CJ such as this or even this suggest to me that it so. But 'Truth' is also a bugger to define in words and concepts, I think that she also conveys this ineffable 'aspect' of Truth in her writings, many of which I personally find to contain a deep spirituality that resonates well!

As a side note, I didn't identify myself as a "staunch atheist" but a "staunch agnostic", and I absolutely reject the idea that my experience had anything to do with my "own divine nature". The experience I had was with the divine, and the divine was absolutely distinct and separate from myself.

Apologies the mixing up of agnostic/aethiest - these are indeed very distinct, I wasn't paying attention. Unconditional acceptance of your experience as you say it and your position as you state it. I guess I was projecting my own view, for this is what seems to have been the case :).

"I'd love to see an experiment whereby they put MDMA in a city's water system [...]"

Did you consider to take a minute think about what you said? Or just blurt it out. What a stupid thought!

Did you consider to take a minute think about what you said?

I have thought about this considerably, in other words, I have given it considerable thought.

Does that thought scare you? Does thought itself scare you?

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No thought doesn't scare me it the idea, that a braindead fuck like yourself, hasn't taken into consideration, that babies and toddlers, drink city water, old people and the aflicted drink city water, dogs and cats drink city water. In general society's zoos and ainimal compounds use city water.
Educated dumbasses like yourself can become tedious...
"When doe the cull start!"

Hmm, yes, fair point about babies and toddlers. Accepted! As for the other groups, well plenty of oldies would benefit, it is an experiment, and there is bottled water and blah blah blah, but you ain't really listening are you :)

Looks like you might have injested some toxic juice as a toddler yourself!

Why are you scared of braindead fucks ? Seems strange that such a label should intimidate you.

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