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RE: Pain, Kratom, and the State

in #libertarian7 years ago

Hi David, I am a Libertarian so I think there is an inherent right of all people to choose what risks they take to their own body and to make those decisions free of state interference. People can choose to destroy their lives if they wish - but I submit many more lives are lost by the black market since substances are untested, no legal resource to the courts, and the violence in any black market.

No one should be forced to pay for anyone else's healthcare either and without state meddling there are charitable organizations that would arise.

I would advocate the therapeutic use as you say as an interim step but I fundamentally deny the right of the state to limit. I do advocate - I am currently on the Libertarian National Committee (the third largest political party in the US).

Thank you and God bless you too!

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Thanks and I have libertarian leanings as well. But what do you say to the fact that people will be incapacitated from some of these drugs and need government care paid for by others to care for them? How does that not step on the liberty of others? Yes you have the right to kill yourself but do you also have the right to force other people to care for you because you took a huge risk in doing something that may have killed you but instead made you a vegetable for life? Or do we just let these people die because they did what they wanted and we should have no responsibility for them? Please let me know your thoughts.

That is the horns of a false dilemma. Why should you be allowed to eat things that might cost me money? Or skydive? Or any number of things. No should be forced to care for other people under ANY circumstance. That does not imply no responsibility - that is up to each person. But it does imply no coerced responsibility.

I think I understnd. So if someone willingly takes a drug and goes into a coma we should just let that person die. Is that what you are saying? What about people who are hit by an automobile and is not insured? Do we let that person die also? People who skydive must have insurance or the company sponsoring the skydive must be insured. These are real things that happen in the world. I am not trying to argue only to understand your point of view. Thanks.

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