This is why libertarians need to be involved in the party more. The only way to combat bad ideas is with better ideas. I can work with pragmatists, and minarchists. Working with socialists is tough because socialism in itself violates both core principles of property rights and non-aggression. Oh well, I'll be in NOLA for the national convention as a counter vote for any socialists or recently converted Democrats or Republicans who don't know how to libertarian yet.