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RE: Hello to All!

in #introduceyourself7 years ago (edited)

Do you have a NEW INTERNET APP, free or not, like you were saying, or do you know people who do ad-hoc, bit torrent peer to peer internet and networking and stuff? I know you were working on something like this before but they didn't wanna....

And can a WIFI signal go around the world like a short wave HAM radio signal, and if not then how could we make WIFI signals go farther?

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WIFI is limited in power by regulation. It puts out electromagnetic radiation just like a light bulb, but is limited to 0.1 to 0.5 Watts and the waves have a much longer wavelength so you can't see them with your eyes. Compare that to the light of a 60W incandescent (or 6W LED) bulb to see how far it goes. WIFI transmitters are like a small LED. Ham radio transmitters might have 1,000 Watts of power and some commercial broadcasters might put out a million watts. I remember a local AM radio station bragging about their "50,000 watt signal" years ago.

Another factor is the way the signal moves across the planet. Longer waves can bounce or refract between the ground and ionosphere allowing them to curve their way around the planet. WIFI wavelengths can't do that, they are too short.

Another consideration is the need to have many simultaneous signals in play. Before cell phones the phone company had mobile phone service but it could only handle a few calls at a time in an entire city. Cell service addressed that by reducing the coverage area by reducing power and breaking up the geography into many small "cells" to handle today's volume of simultaneous traffic.

Normally WIFI covers only a few hundred feet at best in open country but with careful engineering and high gain directional antennas one can concentrate the signal into a searchlight beam and increase range at the expense of breadth. We were able to routinely get reliable 5 mile links using WIFI equipment and, during tests, were able to establish 10 mile point-to-point links but could not maintain them.

I wish I had a NEW INTERNET APP like I mentioned. Although bits and pieces are being talked about and some pieces are showing up in apps and other software I don't believe a complete package exists yet although it is well within technical ability to create it today. I challenge the current generation of knowledgeable and capable people out there to put in the time and energy to craft and make freely available. I'll be glad to help where I can.

Any good suggestions as to what we should call it?

Can we redesign WIFI waves from too short to longer waves that can reach around the world like HAM radio? Is WIFI regulated by the federal government of the United States and maybe by other countries too? Does WIFI have patents or something? Like copyrights? If that is a problem, then can people invent open source systems that are not regulated? If a radio can send a long wave, then why are computer routers not doing the same thing? I would call it blockchain WIFI.

If you had 2 computers, one in Texas and one in India, would you know how to remote access the one computer from the other computer using maybe whatever you have to use to send long wave HAM radio signals or through other methods?

Can we redesign WIFI waves from too short to longer waves that can reach around the world like HAM radio? Is WIFI regulated by the federal government of the United States and maybe by other countries too? Does WIFI have patents or something? Like copyrights? If that is a problem, then can people invent open source systems that are not regulated? If a radio can send a long wave, then why are computer routers not doing the same thing? I would call it blockchain WIFI.

If you had 2 computers, one in Texas and one in India, would you know how to remote access the one computer from the other computer using maybe whatever you have to use to send long wave HAM radio signals or through other methods?

One can send data over longer wavelengths but the tradeoff is the longer the wavelength (hence lower the frequency) the lower the data rate (look up Nyquist and Shannon if you want to start learning about that). The US military sends data globally over extremely low frequencies (look up ELF and HARP for starters) to reach submarines around the world but they transmit with a lot of power (more than you can get out of an AC outlet) and the data rate is in a few bits per MINUTE, not megabits per SECOND. Useful if you can fit your say in a word but not much good for even a tweet which could easily take an hour or two to send. Of course, the other issue is manmade. Regulations (some by country, many by international treaty) prohibit people from emitting electromagnetic waves except with certain wavelengths and power without getting a license or permission. In the US it is the FCC that regulates that.

How long are sky waves or Short Wave Radio Waves when compared to how low the data rate it may have?

So, I like what you said about ELF and HARP, but yeah, it took a lot of power to do that. And it was slow compared to video streaming or even a tweet like you said.

KNL says they are working on developing shortwave WIFI. They are from Finland according to Swling.com. They spent $10 million USD these past few years so far it seems.

I don't know enough to know if KNL or others can do shortwave WIFI. And I am also reading about what you were working on too. And I think it is better if we could try to find different ways of accessing internet, be it through the air, through cables, maybe through worm holes if we were in the Star Trek future, and maybe even through powerlines......

I think what you were and are doing can continue to grow.... we can do ad-hoc or better networking things like you said....

And it is true that people and corporations and governments can always try to monopolize and take over markets including Internet and computer related software, hardware, systems, like you were saying. You asked about how we stop them from hogging up too much of the Internet, of the ISP structures, other infrastructures, that help connect people with people, Internet, computers, phones, and everything.

But my answer is that we cannot really stop them all of the time except to keep things as open source and copy left and open to the public as possible through capitalism and everything: I believe in blockchain WIFI systems: we should reward people for helping in doing what internet service providers (ISP) do. Instead of being forced to go to Comcast or others, we should all be able to be our own internet service providers to and for each other. And the internet can be a lot slower that way but we could slowly get paid doing it and we can all slowly upgrade our hardwares and everything and the internet could grow in more organic ways that way.

I want more competition in the ISP world and in anything else that could help give people more choices in ISP, etc....

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