OSINT Day Four - Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting

OSINT Day 4

We are still collecting more theories and questions than we are FACTS. What we have is an information dump, not an intelligence process...more on this in a couple of days.

We should link our sources as well, so that we can go back and verify.

I will do a blog later on sourcing and archiving stories (notes to self - archive sites and Zotero)

Between Steemit being so slow for me today, and me being nose deep into my keyboard, I'm going to be way off as far as my normal replying and upvoting. Sorry about that...I blame it on the blockchain ;> (also, note to @openparadigm - I won't be checking into @informationwar today unless my writing goes smoothly; you have the conn)

Add the links to your own blogs re: the shooting to the comments, because I am probably going to miss them today. I'll be adding /pol links to the comments as I sort through them.

Two new perspectives

You will find in links today two issues I hadn't seen before; 1) Dr. Welner's assessment of the motives, and 2) the possibility that this was an FBI arms sting gone bad. The second is interesting because it looks at the Leland Yee mention I made yesterday from a different angle.

Past threads

OSINT exercise - Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting

OSINT Day Two - Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting

OSINT Day Three - Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting

Today's data...so far

These pictures were leaked.. In one of the pics you see a table with what appears to be a note on it.. Now CNN is showing these same photos except with that table and the note cropped out. They haven't mentioned it once.

  • Questions ( Always more questions, and very few answers)
    A) Why hasn't the Paddock's camera footage been released yet?
    B) Why haven't the all pics from Paddock's room been released yet?
    C) Why haven't the contents of Paddock's hotel room been released yet?

If you recall, the FBI let the media into the homes of the San Bernadino Islamic terrorists within 2 days.

  • Just a thought I'd share from Reddit comments, very apt, and touching on #informationwar concepts

Just having the story stay front and center for several days will make it much harder to memory hole (as well as the scale of the attack), and the left has really dug themselves in deep with the false, racebaiting narratives--blaming white men for gun violence in America, saying white men are are the biggest terror threat. Those of us who know the facts know these are complete absurdities, and they just open the door for more people to see the light everyday, to see that the left has no positive ideas or vision, just hypocritical racism, lies, and a perpetual march towards marxist totalitarianism.

I think they're doubling down hoping for chaos and social breakdown, in a desperate attempt to seize power again. They're just expediting their political demise. They overestimate their ability to control information these days, and by extension their ability to control people; and they underestimate our resolve, restraint, ability to meme and spread the truth, and our commitment to MAGA.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/747lnc/lt_col_tony_shaffer_cia_trained_intel_operative/

  • Dr. Welner's assessment of the motives

Michael Mark Welner, M.D., (born September 24, 1964, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) is an American forensic psychiatrist and Chairman of The Forensic Panel. Welner is best known for his work in sensitive and complex litigation. He has acted as lead forensic psychiatric examiner in numerous criminal or court proceedings of national and international prominence, including precedent-setting trials and higher court decisions. Welner is also known for a number of innovations in forensic science, forensic psychiatry and justice, including protocols for prospective peer review in forensic medicine consultation, research to standardize an evidence-based distinction of the worst crimes, The Depravity Standard, and recommendations for upgrading forensic science assessment.
Michael Mark Welner, M.D
Website - The Forensic Panel

Some points Dr. Welner makes
A) nationalists are dehumanized
B) this is a spectacle , or instigation, type of mass murder
C) CNN has to answer

FOX is retarded, and does not provide transcripts

  • An FBI arms sting gone bad? (everything below is a copypasta)

Kek_saved_the_world

FROM /POL/

The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.

Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock's true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.

Everything is being kept under extreme wraps because 1) armed ISIS terrorists are still at large and 2) this is very embarrassing to the FBI and they don't want their scheme to become public knowledge.

I will be posting further information throughout the day, people within LVMP are disgusted and are pushing for this information to be released to the public.

Watch the upcoming briefing, we're going to be dropping breadcrumbs to get reporters to ask the the right questions.

They do it to keep tabs on terrorists and track supply networks.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/terrorism-in-garland-texas-what-the-fbi-knew-before-the-2015-attack/

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/05/26/victim-garland-terror-attack-tormented-belief-fbi-knew-isis-plot

We're preparing now, next 20 to35 minutes.

He did have cameras set up, the cameras and video are being examined by the FBI.

Even if they destroy that evidence we have evidence of multiple arms deals dating back to April of 2015 along with casino video of past interactions between Paddock and buyers.

THISI IS ALL VERY POSSIBLE AS IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE TO SOME LEVEL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Yee

Yee was arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) on March 26, 2014 on charges related to public corruption and gun trafficking — specifically buying automatic firearms and shoulder-launched missiles from the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), an Islamist extremist group located in the southern Philippines and attempting to re-sell those weapons to an undercover FBI agent, as well as accepting a $10,000 bribe from an undercover agent in exchange for placing a call to the California Department of Public Health regarding a contract at the organization.[2]

we have direct evidence of the Feds trying to hide information about motive in a shooting, then turn right to gun regulations. They did the same thing with FL shooting until we forced them to admit it was Islam, while all they wanted to do was talk about gun laws.

http://nypost.com/2016/06/20/fbi-doj-release-full-transcript-of-orlando-shooters-911-call/


Source

That's it for me right now, drained, and ankle hurting again.

DO NOT LET THIS STORY DIE!

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How to be an InformationWar Activist - Part Twelve: Information War, Binary Thinking , Utopian Thinking, Critical Thinking
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Everyone's jumping to conclusions why and who did it... My question is where are all the bodies and the blood? Again with the cherry picked crisis actors and doing it badly I must say. Look totally staged and fake to me, I'm not sure that anyone was even killed.

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Good post.....

Here's a thought....

He was drugged in the room - other 'agents' did all the shooting.

He wasn't an extremist, according to people around him....

He IS the perfect person to pin it on.
(for further mental disruption of 'the people')

He was killed, so he couldn't talk.

Just sayin'...

It's possible. I'm not even going to start looking at theories until we get more FACTS, tho

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@informationwar
I'm here, and curating. These events certainly clouded by "The Fog of War".

59 people were killed and at least 4527 injured when a crazed gunman opened fire on a country music festival in Las Vegas

From a Daily news Photo Caption. So how many bullets and pre loaded magazines did he have. How long was he shooting. I saw one story less than an hour. At one hour time frame, he killed 1 person a minute, and injured 75.4 people a minute. Something here just does not add up.

he was shooting for 9 minutes total; I'll source this later (posting from Busy.org, atm)

One of the things we should do is establish a timeline of events

Here it is @stevescoins
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Physical evidence and analysis is akin to the magician's wand, a sleight of hand. Far more important is "cui bono":

but WHO did it benefit?

More than one answer here:

  • ISIS propaganda
  • antifa propganda
  • gun control propaganda
  • I've even seen the claim that a metal detector company would benefit

physical evidence and analysis is akin to the magician's wand

they can be; staged, counterfieited, manufactored.

that's why it's important to keep everything in mind as a possibility, not just the things we want to believe

Exactly @stevescoins. It's so easy to get caught up in what we want to see... our own confirmation bias that is truly is best to take in information, synthesize what you can, spin out theories with minimal bias and iterate on that process as new information comes in.

This is going to be a nightmare because you have to factor in government incompetence as part of the disinformation campaign.

and you can have all of the above, to make it more complicated.

  • incompetence on the line level
  • subversion in command channels
  • covering up either possibility at the top
  • deliberate political misinformation (the democrats and their dancing monkeys in the news)
  • everybody on the net with their own pet theory

It really could come down to the fact the guy was just a nut

Yup... but I sincerely doubt that it is that simple. That's what my confirmation bias is telling me. :)

Whether these types of events are organic or synthetic is largely immaterial - if not completely undiscoverable - at this point. Simulacra and Simulation.

Fact: he was taking a Psychotropic Drug (Valium)
Fact: so have almost ALL Previous Mass Shooters.
not just in the US...but world wide.

Bingo. There's so much about this guy's story that doesn't pass the sniff test. But, Steve is right, all we have now is information but no coherent theories.

The only real truth so far is that 59 people are dead, and the left is committing political suicide. the former is horrific and the latter long-overdue.

the left are using this incident for political gain.
like they always do...'never let a good crisis go to waste".

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Did they plan the crisis? Did they have someone do it for them? Do they always?

Unknown.
Possibly.
Yes.

Those CIA experiments back in the 1960s seem to be still going on, huh?


New ISIS Infographic on Vegas Shooting Claims Paddock Converted Six Months Ago
before or after he was prescribed anti-depressant drugs?

I think the whole AntiFa + Islam thing is a stretch, but I wouldn't put it past those for Islam are also a lot like those for AntiFa.

I think a joint operation is unfeasible theory atm.

The reason I share that viewpoint is to illustrate the ideological similarities between the two anti-American groups.

There IS a Red-Green alliance, but I think it's mainly in academia and fakenews industries

fellow travelers...they both want the same thing.

Thanks for the share !! I was wondering about the updates.. Now I'm all set up..

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