Trump : Take over of Venezuela
Those who have been following the news are aware of the huge crisis in Venezuela which they have been experiencing since 2012. While there has been a change in presidency and attempts to revive the broken country, its socioeconomic and political crisis continues to worsen.
News report suggests that President Trump of America has considered invading Venezuela at height of its political crisis, and as the situation in Venezuela continues to worsen, one can only imagine that option is still on his table.
https://www.rt.com/usa/431723-trump-considered-venezuela-invasion/
With no offence to Venezuela, I am a firm believer that if a sovereign country causes harm and suffering to its people with the issue of a relatively weak and inefficient people in power, FOREIGN INTERVENTION IS NECESSARY.
What do you guys think? Should Trump do it? Please comment and tell me your thoughts, all comments and perspectives are welcomed!!
Also, I would like to wish all Americans a happy independence day, and lets all strive to make this world a better place. Thank you for reading my post, with best regards, Tesla.
That option isn’t on the table.
CIA operations are
But a actual army invasion is not whatsoever
That information is bogus.
That said our government has messed up so bad invading multiple nations in Middle East and the people there are much worse off because of it, if I’m wrong and we (USA government) did invade a South America nation we will weaken our military to a point we can’t function from. We are still in the Middle East and our resources are low. America literally can’t afford to get into another military situation let alone one in South America. We are playing with fire weakening our resources. We heed our resources strong to defend if America is ever attacked!
We have the resources to fight at least three large scale wars at once.
3 large scale wars? if the United States is on the verge of financial collapse. Wars usually bring high expenses and very high levels of indebtedness, I very much doubt that three large-scale wars can be waged.
we are far from the verge of financial collapse, we have 12 carrier groups just waiting for something to do.
The debt is 20 trillion. If oil stops trading in dollars, and the demand for us dollar decreases, it will devalue and it will be the end of the system. And they are not my words, but those of Steve Bannon.
Are Americans going to stop buying more drugs and oil than anyone else in the world? Steve Bannon said that? He has lost his mind.
No, he did not say that, what he said is that the United States, the government, should make sure that the oil is still bought in dollars, all countries do it, or most of them at least do it, otherwise, the dollar would lose most of its demand.
It would lose some of its demand, some people seem to underestimate the fact that the black market for drugs also uses the dollar as a reserve currency.
Yes and we will be completely drained from it and run up huge debt for it
Venezuela would be a great territory, it properly managed its resources are very valuable.
American people have zero to gain by USA going into another country
Middle East or South America it’s not in our interest. We won’t gain anything
We will loose just like in Middle East
Oh, so we should just let them all starve to death?
America acting like the world police has caused millions to die
Has it? Or has it saved millions of lives? If we didn't stop the Chinese or Soviets and they had their way how many more hundreds of millions of their own people would they allow to die? Consider how many of their own people the Chinese Russians Cubans N Koreans and Cambodians killed and starved in the last century and how America prevented that ideology from spreading. Consider how many people were killed in war before America became a superpower and how many have been killed after, the rate of deaths in war these days is a fraction of what it used to be. Same with famine deaths.
Yes
Obviously I’m being sarcastic
But seriously
Do u not understand what happens when USA invaded? Libya has slave trades today because we destabilized them , Iraq is destroyed
Millions have died and starved because we invaded . Your saying “so we should let them starve” is a false statement. They will be much worse off if we invade. All u need to do is like T the nations in Middle East and the millions dead thanks to us invading.
Oh right, please tell me how we destabilized them and that is why Gadhafi had all those slaves!
I would agree that America has the resources and ability to try a coup or takeover, as it seems like US governments always seem to have a way to pull its resources despite all its debt! America alone spends about 610 billion on budget while France, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, India, UK and Japan combined. (https://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison)
I think the issue would be the potential change that US could potentially bring for Venezuela. While it might bring about a worse change as @blackliberal has mentioned, I think it is also the only way a positive change can happen. What do you guys think? @funbobby51 @artgirlnyc
I don't know what the military's mission would be there, this is probably all based on fake news.
Yea cuz U.S invasions have been so successful all around the globe, right? Just take a look of Libia, Syria, Afganistan, Irak.
U.S must stop invading countries they just cause more harm and pain to the people.
If the people elected a government then it's the people who must carry them out. Not a foreign government with beliefs of fake morals and that pretends to be the police of the world.
As simple as 1 2 3.
Thank you for your perspective, @blackliberal . Yes, while in the countries you have mentioned above have led to many civil war and further social unrest, woudn't you agree that certain conflicts are necessary for change to occur? While take-over of countries greatly undermine sovereignty of its government and its people, what if both the government and its people are ineffective in inspiring change on their own?
I'm a Venezuelan.
I do not support foreign interventions. There's something stablished in the UN charter called right to self-determination. Meaning that every country has its own sovereignty, its own culture, and its own government.
Whether we like it or not, Venezuelans elected Chavez and that lead to Maduro. Hence, there are people who still support Maduro. Foreign intervention has always lead to civil wars, it's the same story all over again. What makes you think that this time would be different?
Our problem has nothing to do with US's problems. We elected this government, therefore Venezuelans are the ones that must solve them.
Not really everyone should go through its own problems and solve them. The US has had its own problems in the past and they have managed to solve them without any foreign intervention, why would Venezuelans need one? Did we intervene the US when you were lynching black people just because of their color? No. Then, why would you believe that a fail policy would be effective after causing harm and pain in a whole region?
I respect your desire for sovereignty, but with all due respect it has been failing. I am not a US citizen, neither a Venezuelan, and while I can never fully understand your point of view, I think you have to FACE THE FACT that you guys have failed in restoring your country, and its hard to say when you guys ever will.
Yes, your problems have nothing to with US's problems, but if Venezuelans are UNABLE to solve the problem, don't you think accepting foreign intervention is the way to go? There seems to be no progress with the situation since 2012.
Civil war has not always cause pain and harm. For example, just 200 years ago black Americans were slaves, without human rights. People advocated change, civil war started, many lives were lost, but wouldn't you argue that these sacrifice has lead to more peace and stability in the region? Blacks now have the human rights they deserve, as opposed to those in the past.
I think while its an ideal to achieve, Venezuelan could be much better off with a foreign aide, instead of pulling itself into a deeper problem.
While foreign intervention might not be successful, i think that doing the same and not changing anything is a even worse solution.
I would also apologise in advance if I offended you in anyway, as it is not my intention. My intention is to inspire discussion and hopefully spread some awareness, all I wish is for the safety and prosperity for everyone in the world ( Impossible ideal). Nevertheless, while we can discuss a lot, the fate of Venezuela ultimately still lies in the hands of Venezuelans, and I am sure you feel more strongly about this topic than anyone else.
I apologise once again if I have offended you, and I sincerely hope that Venezuela be restored and prosperity is brought for its people!!! @blackliberal . Thank you for sharing the views of the locals.
You have not offended me, and don't worry its all good.
I understand your concerned about this topic, and that you want the best for Venezuelans. Nonetheless, Interventions have proven to be a failure.
I recommend you to watch those videos. They are very informative about the US and Europe foreign policy.
Thank you Sir, I will definitely look at them, I love informative video. Thank you for your kind understanding, and I am sure we will have a chance to interact again in the near future!!
Best statement here! Most honest too!
Foreign interventions are both inefficient and injust unless it is in support of a revolutionary movement already in progress in that country - and even then, we should not send in conventional forces. If there is a pro-freedom revolutionary movement underway in that country with leadership that is actually capable of taking the reigns of state, then we can consider training them, funding them, and arming them. But "liberating" countries that have no democratic or classical liberal traditions whose people show no sign of having a desire for or ability to implement freedom within the context of the rule of law results in the necessity of long term occupation. It's not a good idea. The Green Movement in Iran is something we should have supported, e.g. "Liberating" Iraq was a mistake. Invading Venezuela would be a mistake. We should look for pro-freedom leaders in Venezuela and establish relationships with them and help them organize. If the Venezuelan people put their own blood and sweat on the line, then they'll actually be able to run their own country once they take it back.
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Wow @pjcomposer, thank you for your great insight. I think it is important that if a revolutionary movement is already in progress, we can support them and actually bring about an relatively effective change. What if, the people and its government have been trying and are unable to bring a positive change by themselves? Should we ignore them, or should someone come in and try to influence otherwise. Cause it seems like whenever there is political distress in a country, the poorest and the people most in need seem to suffer the most. They don't have have the luxury of waiting for a revolutionary from Within.
What do you think sir?
It's kind of like teaching a kid to ride a bike. You can help them, but you can't peddle for them. If there is insufficient public will to stand up leadership and followership, then government overthrow is a fool's errand. If the only problem is access to resources, then yes, that's something we can justify helping them with, I think. But if it's a lack of public will, then there's nothing we can do. The people have to want to be free to be able to implement freedom.
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We could probably take over with a few truckloads of ham sandwiches. Annexing Venezuela would be pretty great, their people long for freedom and prosperity and then we would have more oil resources. I don't think invading places is really something Trump is into, he understands the economic costs of that.
That’s nonsense. We are still in Iraq 17 years later
If u think this would be a quick job you are buying the propaganda respectfully
As far as I can tell the propaganda here is the made up story about Trump wanting to invade Venezuela.
I agree 100%
But USA had deployed its economic hitmen
we can't take credit for all the mismanagement that lead to their downfall.
Absolutely not!
Peace is the only answer... the U.S has already intervened enough in the world... and the U.S. Government has only made matters worse... hell, we still have troops in Japan and Germany...
It's far past time for the U.S. to stop intervening all over the World.
Our Forefathers knew this and warned us about it...
Anyone saying “so we are going to let them starve” is dishonest or ignorant of what USA intervention has done to other nations! Slave trade is here in 2018 because of USA
Libya 🇱🇾 is no longer a nation it’s hell! We killed millions
Stop believing the propaganda that USA should be world police 👮♀️
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