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RE: You will not change my mind in the way you want by force or aggression, your only chance at that is by civil discussion.

Yes, I totally agree with you. Any form of society organization must happen on a voluntary bases without force or violence included to persuade people to participate.
I think governments are good instituition to handle big social projects like building roads or the energy grid, that everybody uses. They should only take care of these things and make sure that roads are maintained and the workers get their pay check.
For all other issues, please we can do it by ourselfs and don't need no Nany! Yeah, you are right when you say that folks are not ready yet!

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