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RE: May you live in interesting times...or in Pittsburgh!
ok, well I'm not familiar with Creedmore, is that just the bullet brand name?
And it's similar to what, the .308 or something more like a real battle rifle?
it is a calibre (0.264 inches) but it has enough bullet weight to carry the energy, unlike the 223 round. It is available on the AR-15 frame right now. Ballistically it much better than the 223, while avoiding a totally new battle rifle redesign! Good round, low cost cutover, top choice!
I have a 6.5mm Swedish Mauser, that I took a deer at over 450 yards, with one shot. The 223 is 55 grains of lead, the 6.5mm I shoot is 129 grains of lead!
I personally like the M-14 in 308, but that cost would be massive.
:)>sir smithlabs, the AR is such a light weight rifle, wouldn't it kick if it had the Creedmore round?
It is a shorter round than my 6.5mm. Not much kick, an AR is a girls gun anyway! I am building a couple of more, got parts coming.
I may do an AR10 (308) just for fun.
Here is a good place for parts:
https://www.deltateamtactical.com/assembled-ar15-uppers
:)>what the? sir smithlabs..you're building AR;s even though you don't like them?
Yes, just to piss off the liberals. I teach kids to shoot; and an AR is a good kids gun.
:)>oh ok, I get it, it's a little kids gun and a girl's gun. thanks sir smithlabs!
It is a zero recoil weapon because the 223 is basically a souped up 22. It is a good training rifle though.
:)>well sir smithlabs, I remember when they were trying to sell the concept of the .223 to the military. And their whole pitch was that it was designed to wound instead of kill because it takes a whole lot more people and resources to take care of a person if they are injured. That's what I remember anyway but that was in the 60's! lol.