Shortage of Good Curators for Indonesia – Tackling the Problem Head On

in #indonesia7 years ago (edited)

Steemit relies on curators.  It’s a simple process really.  Authors write and curators read, engage and upvote.  If we didn’t have curators Steemit would not work.  But there is a difference between a curator and a great curator.

Steemit is about rewarding authors for awesome content.  A great curator will seek out awesome content and reward that content.  The more awesome the content the higher the reward.  It’s not easy to read post after post and decide what is good and what is not good.  But that is what a great curator does.  What is easy is to vote for friend no matter how good the content.  This is not curation.  This is just voting for friends.  A great curator will move outside his own circle to find the best content.

Steemit has been designed to reward great curators.  For those of you that don’t understand how it works, let me try give you a very basic explanation.  When you see the payment on a post, this payment is to be split 75% 25%. 25% going to curators.  How much of this you get as a curator depends on a few things.  Your Steem Power is one factor, as this grows your curation rewards also grow.  But the timing of the vote is also important.  If you find a post and upvote it before a whale or even someone with more steem power than you, then your reward will be higher.

So a curator comes along and finds some awesome content.  This curator votes on the post and maybe even resteems it.  The curator has a reputation of being a great curator so other people want to know what’s so good about that post.  They read it too, and upvote it and resteem it. But because the curator had an early vote, they have maximised their curator payout.

That’s the very simple explanation. It is a lot more technical than that and includes a timing curve where by the best time to vote is 30 minutes after the post was published.

What I have experienced with the Indonesian community is a shortage of great and awesome content curators.  I have also experienced an expectation gap from those joining Steemit.  Many people seem to think all content should be rewarded. But we will discuss that in a different post, I don’t want to get side tracked.

I also feel it is because of the lack of awesome curators, the Indonesian community are posting in bad English.  They are doing do because they know there are English curators and like everyone are trying to attract that big vote.  

I also know from speaking with @mrday that some people just want to practice writing English.

I believe that the community of Indonesia should post in their own language and feel assured they have people to read their content and votes will come. I also believe, if they have the ability, they should posts bilingual and not just in English.  This is only my opionin and I do not want to be telling people how to post.  But I look at the CN community and see they all post in their language.  I just hope people from Indonesia don’t feel like posting in English is the only way.

So over the next few weeks we are going to grow some awesome Indonesian curators.  At the moment I am preparing something with @abh12345 and I will be making an announcement on our discord server first.

If you think you would make an awesome Indonesian curator (or already are an awesome curator) and want to be involved, hop over to discord and say hi and stay tuned for our upcoming announcement.  here is your invite to join our server  https://discord.gg/8NeRA . When you join, please do get involved and engage with the community in the general chat areas because it is the people that engage with us that we tend to help.


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It's not easy to see the best content, because people who choose content are not robots ..

It’s very easy if you have any a relationship or something like words “tak kenal maka tak sayang”😅 just what in my mind cause before this they are love each other

I agree with your views. I see so many bad posts curated here. Though there is a lot of good content here. I support you.

When choosing a curator to aceh on comments here, then I'll vote in @teukumukhlis, This option regardless of any community and I've seen some incredible content from it, without cornering next to the parties, there is no racist, there is no sara, there is no difference in mind, this purely free choice without rights Alliance, some of the content I read on a very unusual postingannya and deeply build up, the choice is purely my priority, This is one of content I like from him.
Steemit Workshop: educating new users in Lhokseumawe, Aceh

Hopefully others ask her voice against @teukumukhlis and join @steemitbc, or some people here have a decent candidate, please go to the discord and say greetings.
an invitation to join steemitbc and wait for the announcement

I'm not interested in being a curator of a topic or community. I have another task that is more responsible (teaching). I also do not promote myself to be chosen. Thank you!

I just love the way you work, and it's very helpful to other people, If you are not willing to be the curator for help, I hope there are others who have a way of working like you, I am sure you will read the posting for the sake of posting one day to give the award.
If you can help others outside the line of the curator then I am glad to hear it, We wish all the people of Aceh can enjoy the award you are slowly.
#salam hormat saya untuk anda

hahaha. .
saya kadang bingung juga bang, setelah sekian lama, masalah kurasi dan iri vote juga masih terus menjadi masalah.
setelah hampir beberapa bulan, ternyata perkembangannya masih sama.
dan saya rasa jugq yang memeberikan info juga tidak begitu akurat.
bakalan jadi panjang lagi ini.. . .
hahah

MARI DISIMAK SECARA SEKSAMA !!!

Lantas, apakah konten seperti ini yang disebut berkualitas ???

Mohon Arahan dan Bimbingannya Anda Nenek @paulag, @safwaninisam, @said-nuruzzaman, @samakito, @binjeeclick dan Para Penyetubuh Motivator Tangguh Tersebut.

Untuk Referensinya Anda Bisa Menuju Link https://steemit.com/steem/@abunagaya/memahami-tentang-steemit-lebih-dalam-dan-tiga-mata-uang-didalam-steemit

Jangan Sampai Lupa Bahagia !!!

Ramé panglema tibang sang disinoë.... Na yang galak ke qurrator na yang iri ke goeb yang ka berhasil... Macam keuh na... Saya lebih suka pendapat bang @rismanrachman bagus nya posting ini di hapus saja untuk menimalisir konflik horizontal yang berimbas pada perkembangan steemit di Indonesia...

Waaaaaaaah rupanya na persetubuhan dengon sitim kloner jameun abu nyan. That geupap, brat ipoh hahaaaha

LOL... Please accept my standing ovation for your great post. Lets jump into the topic that we are discussing, the shortage bla bla...seem you know much about Indonesia curators and it soon makes me curious why you currently so concern about Indonesia users. You are so allergic to the language that we use, according to you, is bad. FYI, we dont push Indonesia users to use English, but how can I say no when they are trying to show their ideas with English even the google is the last solution to make their post readable and again, is it wrong using the tool? I know you get confused when reading English from Indonesia post that you said, that is not good content. WTF do you know about great content? Any standard? If any, pass it to me. What is the great content standard on steemit? Do you wanna be a heroine for some of the dumbhead Indonesia users? I guess your popularity is not really working so you need the backup from whom they adore you like their mom. I have to remind you, check the accurate info before you speak, and kindly find who they are, what they are doing for the community? I am afraid you just heard from one side, then you make a post to attract them. Good job @paulag. Be good steemit police!

Well! I am so irritated when you say many of Indonesia contents are rubbish, then it makes me think again and come up with a simple question, do you think your content is great, @paulag? Then you carelessly judge the others content aren't. Do you realize that your post is not using the pics source, tell me, is it categorized as great content?

Why are you shouting at me? bold enlarged text is aggressive and there is no need. I am offended just by the formatting.

You have made allegations about me yet judge me for doing the same - shame on you. I am not 'allergic' as you put it to anything.

I do not make decisions for others, people can like what content they want. What you like and what I like are very different, just like the type of person you are is very different to the person I am. You do not have to be involved in the program I am setting up and I am free to delegate to whom I wish.

I will be engaging with those that wish to engage with me, if my curator program adds value to them and the wider community then I am happy. And by the way, this program I am talking about has been running successfully within other communities on steemit, and i am free to do the same.

You underestimated our english.. haha.. maybe you don't dig deep enough. There are alot of master in english here in Indonesia..and english is world language and everbody can use it.. if we are write in bahasa, that will make indonesian post cannot be access by world easily. But ya.. we admit it there are bad english posts, I see that as the procces of learning well english

Intinya, Steemit koen warisan yah atau ma teuh dirumoh. Kasep pungo nyan, bek lee meutamah, apalagi didukung lee si inong @paulag nyan. #keureulieng

i am very touched with your efforts for indonesia. we desperately want a change from this. I am very grateful to you mom @paulag.

Ha ha ha ha, Have you go to Indonesian Community meetup for this time to make some captured and show to your mom? GOOD BOY

Yes, it is true. but all look different after a while I search.

hahahaha, that's so funny bro @dilimunanzar

Kana ma dih yang barô ma droë dih aleh hana di tueng le...

Saya mendukung lahirnya curator conten untuk Indonesia .. #bek #panik #semoga #makin #bahagia #steemian #seureudeng

Saya mendukung ide @paulag ... dan saya menilai curator conten adalah kebutuhan saat ini

#curator #conten #curator #bek #panik

Saudara curator @levycore, nama anda telah disebut di mana-mana, dalam dunia steemit gaung nama anda telah dipuja di mana-mana. Banyak postingan memuji anda, mencoba meniru langkah dan gaya anda untuk mengaplikasikan giat giat menuju sukses di steemit. Puja puji di sana sini tentunya suatu penghargaan tersendiri

Namun, saya tidak mengerti, dalam postingan yang menimbulkan pergesekan dan permusuhan, malah anda memberikan kurasi nilai, anda upvote postingan tersebut.

Tentunya hal tersebut adalah tanda tanya besar, atas ketidak pahaman saya tentang bagaimana pola pikir anda.

Karena, katanya di steemit tidak boleh menghina dan menimbulkan permusuhan, tidak boleh plagiat, konten yang bagus, sangat orisinil, harus kreatif, membangun pertemanan.

Namun, anda @levycore yang katanya sebagai curator Indonesia, kenapa melakukan upvote atau memberikan kurasi pada postingan yang menabur kebencian, menghina?

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Do you wanna be a heroine for some of the dumbhead Indonesia users?..
soe nyang neu maksud bangai nyaan???
pue mentang2 kah awak rayek nyang hna saboh ide ngon kah bangai mandum???..
adak kah pih mnyoe hna soe dukung pue jeut keuh lagee jinoe???. krn na awak bangai nyan keuh kah jeut lagee jinoe..
Bek gara2 peng yg hna seberapa nyan ka peugah bangsa droe keuh bangai bak bangsa laen!!!.. ilong hna kumita raseki hinoe cma keu piasan mntoeng geulantoe ku meu pehbuuk, tapi ban kubaca pesan kah rapat igoe kuh..
neu jak beut bak tengku sigoe-goe.. neu tanyoeng kiban cara ta silaturrahim sabe bangsa teuh ato ngon bangsa gob!!!.
Kah caroeng @levycore, tapi intelektualitas kah boh itieeek!!!!.
I'm sory @paulag, just share to some people or "Aneuk Aceh"..

Many LOL for @levycore but If you have the courage today, then you won't be barking here, But you will be a good example to be more right, @paulag is the one who tells the truth and never invite you to feel guilty here, Never seek animosity because I also had to make the translation more posts mom @paulag, It's not about praising a woman, This is pure unadulterated truth, and we have become curators of the bad in me, How many people who complain a lot after some time they mention your name in the posting but neglected.
Just go to help people who become your friends and your brother when you continue to be the wrong person, If you tend to improve the way you work and the quality of the posts, then you'll be great.

#Become a great man @levycore, don't be so racist by the way you speak.

I am @elnazry, we are good.

Saya rasa Curator yang hebat adalah Curator yang dapat memahami Standaritas Conten. saya sebagai pemula di steemit juga tau sedikit tentang standaritas konten, hanya saja saya tidak menyanggupi kriteria tersebut.

Salah-satu standar konten yang bagus :

  • Konten Yang Bermanfaat,
  • Konten Harus Original,
  • Konten Yang Mudah Dicerna,
  • Konten Yang Berkarakter,
  • Konten Dengan Topik Yang Jelas,
  • Konten Dengan Panjang Artikel "Misal nya 500 Kata" Dengan dibagi Beberapa Paragraf Yang Pantas,
  • Dll.
    Semoga bermanfaat bagi anda @levycore sebagai curator.

Saya rasa anda tidak pantas menyebut diri anda sebagai Kurator Indonesia bila Standar Konten saja anda tidak memahami nya. Seperti yang sudah anda tanyakan ( WTF, apakah Anda tahu tentang konten hebat? Ada standar? Jika ada, berikan padaku. Apa standar konten hebat di steemit? ).

Pertanyaan anda itu mencerminkan kebodohan anda sendiri sebagai kurator. Terima Kasih
Salam Steemian Aceh

Hana adab sagai jak hah WTF bak postingan @paulag, bek ato ato awak Indonesia-Aceh, ka vote soe yang galak ka vote, ka atoe soe yang jeut ka ato dalam Indonesia-Jakarta manteng, yang na manfaat keukah manteng ka komen, yang merugikan kah hana payah peu seumak komentar gop,

https://steemit.com/spiderblogger/@waphilip/hey-minnows-stop-spamming-in-the-comments-try-this-tip-instead

WTF

Anda benar. Dang seratus dut 50

Andai geutanyoe na adab .. maka Hana Ta kheun njan ..

Beutoi bang, semoga semakin beradap dan menjadi contoh baik kepada pemula yang lain.

Njan ban model dan kadar ilme .. jadi ta maklum .. pokok nya ya dukung lahirnya #curator #conten .. #bek #panik

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Ini contoh content yang didukung kurator steemit Indonesia... Konten nya menghina orang lain malah dapat upvote...luar biasa

COME To Mama Baby

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Ini bagaimana @levycore? Bisa dijelaskan?

Tiba - tiba @levycore hilang ingatan dengan dalih accountnya di bajak (ijak u blang)

Plagiarism is so bad in literary.... @levycore you're Bravo..... I am not so good language English with true grammar, writing etc but our want to try with other experience to socialize with foreign else Indonesia.... What it's wrong with us....!

Thanks..

Terkadang saya bingung dengan perdebatan yang terjadi, siapa benar siapa salah.

Saya terkejut membaca postingan ini, terlepas dari isi perdebatan yang ada, yang menjadi pertanyaan saya kenapa salah satu kurator Indonesia yang namanya sering saya dengar dan digadang-gadangkan disteemit ini mengeluarkan kata-kata yang kurang pantas?

Saya lihat beberapa postingan rekan-rekan saya disteemit, betapa bahagianya mereka jika dapat bertemu dan mengikuti Meet Up yang pematerinya adalah anda, saya memang belum pernah mengikuti Meet Up dengan anda.

Selama ini saya berfikir anda tidak akan mengajak orang lain mendukung postingan yang memiliki unsur kebencian kepada orang lain, apalagi memberikan contoh kata-kata yang tidak pantas dengan membawa nama besar INDONESIA.

Apa saya yang salah berfikir selama ini?

Saat kenyataan tak seindah harapan jangan lupa minum air putih, bro!! ah

hai @paulag, bek tanyong pakon Kamo pakek bahasa inggreh, karna Kamo tengoh meruno bah jeut bahasa lagenyan. Ipegah nyan bhsa donya, Kamo hawa sit bek ipegah tinggai berita. halo bang @abunagaya, bek bengeh keu komunitas steemit Indonesia, nyan syara tanyo cit, kadang adoe tanyo roh Kenan lam grup nyan. hi bang @levycore, semoga kejadian lagenyo bejet nepedame, bek le karu bek le rioh. Hai kemandum steemian yang ka megabong, tanyo bek dawa, ksi ngen nsc tetap sodara, steemit nyo ata gop peget, tanyo cuma tak Mita peng Ino, dan na ladom yg betoi ipeget karya. Jadi kepu tamedawa hanya karna dawi dawa, ci peget acara Duk nesapat mandum tapeputoh beget pegah haba bepah, undang ibuk paulag bang abunagaya ngen b ang levycore. Hahaha bahasa Aceh kalinyo.

komentar terbaik
mohon di pertimbangkan bg @levycore dan bg @abunagaya
dari lon tuan yang ingin steemit indonesia menyatu dan bergotong royong..

I see people who want to post in English, more to get attention from outside, while the content in the language itself there is no gap at this time to get upvote, so far in Indonesia, good content not necessarily get high voice, thus causing them prefers writing in bad English, and that includes me.

so lets make steemit a better place that works for everyone and over come this problem together :-)

I agree, like throwing garbage in its place, make steemit a better place, I hope it can solve this problem. and I am ready to help for prosperity.

Abang @riodejaksiuroe, raneuh ho ret KSI pue NSC? hahahahaahah....Hai nyoe lon kumayang beh bek flag-flag atawa beungeh beungeh...yu ya yu

Perkenalkan saya Rio. Dewan penasehat KSI Pidie. Man lon mazhab hana mita karu. Peu meupake sabe2 Aceh. Nek geutanyoe maksimal meuprang ngon kaphe.. minimal ngon jawa. Jadi tanyoe bek lah karu sabe syehdara..

Ngeri li abang @riodejaksiuroe. hahahahaha!!! Ham to the booo

That's very true @abunagaya, I prefer posting in English, although that is not very good, than I made a post in Indonesian, but no one saw my post.

can I ask you, do you prefer posting in English because it has the potential to be seen by more? or are there other reasons?

I made a post with the English language because I prefer and maybe a lot of people who see my pot,
And most of all I also want to learn a word of two English words, with which I will also be able to bit by bit the meaning of words in English.
I always make post in indonesian language, but my post also does not mean anything and then I try in english, although I only use google translation, my posting there is little change than I make in indonesian language.
so from that I took the decision to make a post in english.
Actually I also really like to use my own local language.

I agree with your statement @abunagaya, I fully support what you say, and thank you for your care and we need support here from outside our country, even though we do not have the right English @paulag

the right english is not the big problem, the problem is when people feel they have no choice but to post in english and i do not want that to be the case

yes. I understand and agree, we do not know the direction to get support, mostly in Aceh, English is one of the solutions @paulag

Hello @paulag how are you? Before, I would like to ask, what contribution have you given to us in indonesia? If you have a big share or investment for Indonesia, maybe I will agree with you. For me, anyone can argue, just do not overdo it. Indonesia is vast, not like a coconut shell that can be controlled by the curator. Simply put, is there a law that governs a curator, should to whom he gives his curation? If anything, show it to me !! Because, which I know, the person who gave the delegation itself to the Indonesian curator, never demanded what kind of content should be given voice !! And more ironic again, you say steemian Indonesia should write in Indonesian, my question is, whether during this steemian Indonesia not write in its language? Supposedly, if you are really concerned about steemian Indonesia, you find out in detail from every point of view, not just hear from certain people or groups, who just want to undermine their own country !! I hope you review the problems that are happening in Indonesia, not just accept opinions from one party only. If not, you better take care of the steemian in your country, Thank's !!

Don't forget to eat ice cream, let this head cold !!

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another shouter

Lol @paulag
Where is my Popcorn?

Seeing them is Crazy! You probably will need to understand their Cultures.
Don't give them too much, esp to individual

probably do need to pay more attention to their culture, but I think I it was just wrong timing and I got caught up in a row between communities

Indonesian do have sect .
Give one not to the other you will have problems.

This is all because of the wrong start, then there are many groups in using Steemit account in Indonesia, this mistake is the beginning of the Indonesian curator set that supports only in writing the Indonesian language. this is what makes the situation so unstable, for the person who wrote the English language is not included in the list of curator support Indonesia.
maybe that the commander @bullionstackers already knows more about Steemit users in Indonesia.

There are many Indonesian users within #whalepower Platform.
I am the only curator in #whalepower that understand Indonesian / Bahasa .
I have spoken before in my earlier posts when I agree to Support the Indonesian.
Only when the authors abide by the Rules!
The #whalepower Guidelines have been set.
or get Kicked Ass. Many have tried! and as times goes by, I am very serious when one's break the Rules.

I also strongly agree to root out plagiarism, because we all know the Steemit platform is a potentially savvy media that must be kept together from false or double account contamination, it should not be left out of the plagiarism behaviour of irresponsible people, for us to eradicate together or warn those who do.

Ihhhh ngeri li abang @ezadolphin ni...hambooo

Anda tahu wilah indonesia sangat luas...??

Hi @paulag...

Thank you for you attention to steemian at indonesia. I as one of the Indonesian steemian totally agree with this post. There are many interesting and useful content that does not get the reward. This condition has killed the spirit of steemian of indonesia to continue to learn and create interesting content.

this is why I want to try and grow some awesome Indonesian curators . Thank you for your comment

Resteems are far more important than rewards if you're taking the long view. If you just want to get rich quick then sure rewards are important but if you want to build a Following community then resteems gets your post under more eyeballs than any upvote ever would.

#TwoPenneth

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