RE: A cold reality: we are not ready for the upcoming ice age
global warming is bullshit, so no changes are needed.
Did any of the people you've tagged actually say anything to that tune? It's Intesting how people glean that this is what people are trying to hint at from what they say. From what I know of the majority of those you've tagged, they are huge advocates for the environment and doing things in way that don't harm the environment around them. So I would not take from what they have said that no change is needed. Although, in their part, no change might be needed because they already live their lives with the goal of doing things in non-damaging ways.
It doesn't matter whether the world gets hotter or colder, what matters is that the changes and preparations we make now will help, no matter who is correct. Ceasing our pollution of the land and seas is the right direction, no matter what. Ceasing our destruction of forests and natural environments is the right direction, no matter what. Why argue about what you think will happen, if your solutions are the same?
Currently, some of the things that our governments have planned for "slowing climate change" will put toxic chemicals into the atmosphere and put people further into poverty as wealth continues to be moved to a small portion of the population.
What most of these people are saying is that the climate is going to change with our without our input. So let's move forward with trying to make it a non-toxic change and give the best chance of survival.
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The illusion that the climate on our planet has anything to do with human activities is a myth that just won't go way - it is potentially very profitable to keep pushing it...
But humans do not control the sun, or the earth’s orbit!
There are four major temperature change cycles related to the sun that detirmine the earth’s temperature:
11 year and 206 year cycles: Cycles of sunspot activity
21,000 year cycle: Earth’s combined tilt and elliptical orbit around the Sun
41,000 year cycle: Cycle of the +/- 1.5° wobble in Earth’s orbit ( tilt )
100,000 year cycle: Variations in the shape of Earth’s elliptical orbit
THE SUN... (and the path of the earth's orbit around it)
That's what it all comes down to!
http://www.frot.co.nz/design/sift/global-warming/
In the grand scheme of things, our activities are nothing to the planet. While we're here, though, it would be nice if we could live on it without making everything living sick!
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Unfortunately Agenda 2030 uses sickness as a key tactic to reduce the global population to 500 million and going on about "global warming" is another one of their many tactics to achieve that aim...
By the sound of this solar minimum, they may as well let nature do the culling for them! Just wait a little longer.
500mil is about 7% of the population, so if they only want the wealthiest to stay, they're going to have to do their own dirty work. I can't imagine many of them wanting to do their own cleaning. ;D
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They are doing their own dirty work right now - chemtrails, monsanto roundup, 5G, and water fluoridation for a few examples are not accidents!
https://educate-yourself.org/cn/hodgesdepopulationagenda08aug14.shtml
Dear @frot
Why would any country want to reduce their population? This seem to be very against logic. Population need to be growing in order to keep alive current financial system and mostly retired system.
Am I wrong?
Yours
Piotr
In a word: automation. The advent of AI and robotics eliminates the political need for millions of eaters to support wealth.
Consider the goals of the .01%. They enjoy robust nature. They find their lovely estates being encroached on by hungry people that slash and burn it for agriculture, poach the neat animals for food, and jam the traffic while they are on the way to the disco for a night of debauchery and degeneracy.
The poor are lowering their standard of living.
It's also mischaracterizing the issue to consider why nations would do this. This is a globalist - transnational - policy, not based on any national interest. A given nation has greater military power if it has a larger population of cannon fodder. The politicians of a given nation thus have an incentive to grow their populations.
Not only does automation and military killbots change this equation, but globalists have no national loyalties, and thus no interest in the strength of any nation. All nations are obsolete for their purposes, and thus they are globalists, not nationalists.
Hi @valued-customer, @minismallholding (Im adding you only so you could share your view on this comment)
Automation is indeed a reason why there is less jobs, but it still doenst explain why goverments would like to reduce population as they seem to be doing opposite (migration, encouraging to make more babies etc).
I think current tax system proved, that there is very little support from taxes coming from corporations and wealth created by AI and robotics is not coming back into goverments/population.
I also believe that AI and robotocs do actually put extra political need for millions of people, who can actually vote on those who are in power. Not needing us is like agreeing that "we also do not need power".
After all we can be ruled, but AI will not be. So I cannot see future the way you do. I think value of human life for politicians will only increase.
Luckily it seem that their golden age is over and globalist need to take nationalism into consideration as a permanent factor.
Thx for amazing comment
Yours, Piotr
I'm not very good at explain the reasoning behind these things, so hopefully VC will answer it better. However, if you think of the richest people in the world, they have more money than they could ever spend. Once you have that, there is only power and control to be gained. Large amounts of people are harder to control than smaller groups, who are easy to make dependant on a system. The wealthy don't like the planetwide pollution and destruction any more than we do, but they still want to have what they want. Nature can cope with damage in a small scale, but not on a large scale. They also believe that there are inferior and superior people and the majority of us fall into the inferior category. We are cannon fodder, which is no longer required if you are no longer going to war or if war can be automated.
These are long documentaries, but if you have the time they will help you put things into place. How big oil conquered the world explains what had led us to this point and Why big oil conquered the world will explain why the wealthiest want a population cull.
There have already been sterilisation projects done for decades. We already know what Hitler did, but there were ones in place in the US, they have done it in African countries and been kicked out when they realised that vaccination programmes were also sterilising people. This write up talks a bit about some of the sterilisation programmes that have happened.
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Dear @minismallholding
Just wanted to thank you for another amazing comment and taking the time to share your thoughts with me.
I really appreciate it a lot.
That's also what I used to believe. But then look at China. The biggest group ever and they are the most obidient people out there.
Thx for those links.
Yours, Piotr
You've explained it way better than I could have! I knew someone would have a better answer than I.
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Because the zionist nwo eugenisists who own and run this world have depopulation as a top goal - reduction from 8 billion down to 1/2 a billion by 2030 - this is all a theory - but it is a very well documented one - hang on to your hat and take a trip down the rabbit hole
https://educate-yourself.org/cn/hodgesdepopulationagenda08aug14.shtml
and for more on the global warming scam see:
https://educate-yourself.org/lte/globalwarming13sep06.shtml
That's so confusing @frot
We can see that most countries are trying to bring migrants to avoid financial system collapse in the futre and we're witnessing massive population growth. It is not possible to reduce population without turning entire world population against yourself.
That's anyway my impression.
Yours,
Piotr
That's because the people who really run them (not their own "governments") - want to destabilise those countries to bring about one world government - NWO
Easiest way to reduce the population is to make people sick so they die faster and make them infertile - that is why everything from vaccinations to promoting homosexuality to 5G is designed to do that
Dear @frot
I understand your point and I value it a lot. Thank you for sharing.
However I've heard those reasons since I was teenager. I'm over 40 now and I'm still hearing similar reasons. And yet people life-span is only increasing.
I mean, c'mon. Which country would ever presss "start" button and kill their own population knowing that it will push their own rulers into deep hole and will allow other powers and other countries to take advantage.
This world has to many agendas, which are so very different from each other.
Yours
Piotr
Thank you for your amazing reply @frot
So much valuable informations I never knew before. Seriously I appreciate it a lot.
Yours
Piotr
Dear @minismallholding
Thank you for your kind reply.
I'm very sorry if I caused some misunderstanding. I only mentioned and greeted them all, because they were involved in this conversation and Im curious of their opinion. Hope I made it clear, that Im not attacking anyone and I only want to learn from all of you.
Thank you for sharing your view with me.
Yours
Piotr
I don't personally think you were attacking anyone. It's sparked some great feedback and I know there are those who feel that if you say the climate will change without people's input you must think its okay to continue to pollute and harm. I've often wondered why they come to that conclusion.
I wondered if something had been said that I had missed or even if you felt that it was implied. I see that this was not the case now and it was more of a leading question. Always hard to get the right tone with the written word.
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Thank you for your kind reply @minismallholding
This is very mature way of describing this issue. Personally Im trying to figure out what other people I trust think. I would like to know what is public opionion view on this problem.
Trying to learn any real informations about that topic is a bit like walking in the heavy fog.
Not really. Please keep in mind that you're way ahead with your knowledge about this topic and some questions asked by people researching (like myself) may just sound wrong. Simply because we may not even see a big picture and we're full of wrong assumptions.
Very true. It does help if you already know person behind the screen, but we just got to know each other.
Thank you for being so responsive
Yours
Piotr
Thank you for that reminder. I think we can forget when talking amongst those who already have a lot of knowledge and we're just adding new little bits of information. There is a lot of background to take in and it can be confusing to know where to start when someone is new to it. Really, if we care about the environment around us we're on the same page.
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Dear @minismallholding
My impression is that majority of those who have some knowledge and strong opinion about issues related to climat change get usually easily annoyed by ignorance/lack of knowledge coming from regular people.
Thank you for your mature reply. Like I mentioned before: I'm trying to learn from people like you to build my own bigger picture. After all this is very complex topic with many different agendas. It's not only left or right here.
Yours
Piotr
Strong opinions can often result in tunnel vision and impatience. I try not to get to caught up in things like that and keep an open mind. After all, most people are really rather nice, even if they do have opposing views to. I think we also each have to make our own journeys of discovery taking on what makes sense and discarding what really doesn't. It's easy to get carried away!
Many thanks for a thought provoking conversation, Piotr.
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Thank you for taking the time to reply and share your knowledge @minismallholding :)
Yours
Piotr