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RE: 🎥 Hard Fork

in WORLD OF XPILARlast year

I have always been interested in this story as well. I am very sorry that there is a big split, but on the other hand, competition will inevitably lead to improvement, it will force to find new solutions for survival and prosperity.

I read that at the time it was planned that STEEM would migrate to the TRON blockchain. I wonder if this is true and if so, why leave something of your own and switch to someone else's. Perhaps this was one of the factors of the split as well.

When I found out about Steemit and started writing here, one of the authors told me that everyone had switched to HIVE. That's how I learned about HIVE. I created an account there and tried to post on both platforms for a while. However, very quickly I made friends here and became bored with HIVE. From this I conclude that the main advantage of such a project is not new developments, not even money (not always money), but the community.

Some time ago, due to the fact that my country has been at war for six months now, the financial situation forced me to start writing in HIVE again. I didn't last more than a month. Once again, Steemit has a complete victory. I'm not interested in HIVE and I don't intend to post there anymore.

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Oh, I was listening to The Prodigy too. Where is my youth...

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I read that at the time it was planned that STEEM would migrate to the TRON blockchain. I wonder if this is true and if so, why leave something of your own and switch to someone else's. Perhaps this was one of the factors of the split as well.

I'm still not clear on that. The article that @the-gorilla links to seems pretty certain on that point, where it says,

Sun had one condition, however: He said he would only pay 70% upfront, with the balance due once the Steem token was transferred to the Tron blockchain. His plan was to have the Steem token keep its name but run on the Tron network instead.

That claim was a huge part of the justification/rationalization that the attackers used for both the freeze and the split, but at the time it all seemed to me like a big miscommunication that arose from differences in language (I've read that article a number of times over the years, and I get frustrated by the misleading and one-sided presentation every single time - so I'm not going to take that claim at face value without a source behind it.). At the time, my take was that JS was talking about connecting/bridging the chains and the soon-to-be Hive witnesses were (intentionally or not) misconstruing what he said.

At this point, with the Hive people gone for the last 2 3/4 years, I tend to doubt it. If it were true, I assume it would have happened by now. Also, if it's true, then - as a 30% stakeholder - I would expect @ned to still have more of a presence.

I'm fairly certain that the Hive witnesses had already been planning to fork for a long time, and they were just waiting for an excuse, so they went all-in on FUD and misinformation when they launched their attack.

 last year 

I finally fully read the article @the-gorilla linked to. It looks pretty one-sided to me. It would be great to hear an opposing opinion.

Cryptocurrency news sites also wrote about the migration of STEEM to the TRON blockchain. But it is very likely that they copied the information that the witnesses of that time shared.

I finally fully read the article @the-gorilla linked to. It looks pretty one-sided to me. It would be great to hear an opposing opinion.

There's no doubt that the Hive camp won the propaganda campaign at the time. At one point, I thought about writing notes so I could eventually set the record straight with "Steve's Authoritative Treatise on What Really Happened." ;-) Maybe I should have. Many of the details are starting to get blurry now.

 last year 

"Steve's Authoritative Treatise on What Really Happened."

I really hoped that this was going to make a cool acronym but I've been left disappointed.

lol. And it was off to a good start, too.

I'm fairly certain that the Hive witnesses had already been planning to fork for a long time, and they were just waiting for an excuse, so they went all-in on FUD and misinformation when they launched their attack.

I suspect they had been planning on eliminating or redistributing Steemit's stake, which is why Ned wanted to sell, but they probably wanted to keep control of the chain rather than building a new one. They probably expected Justin's response to be something that forked the chain, and then they could claim that theirs was the "real" Steem chain and Justin was the one splitting off a new chain.

I suspect they had been planning on eliminating or redistributing Steemit's stake, which is why Ned wanted to sell, but they probably wanted to keep control of the chain rather than building a new one.

Yeah, I agree. I remember they had even talked about something like "forking Steemit out" a year or two beforehand. I guess they never really gave up on that idea.

and then they could claim that theirs was the "real" Steem chain and Justin was the one splitting off a new chain.

Some of them even tried to make that claim anyway.

 last year 

I get frustrated by the misleading and one-sided presentation every single time

I think that the bias comes through - especially as a lot of the people referenced were those that initiated the switch to Hive. As though they'd been "interviewed" and proof-read the article before release.

At this point, with the Hive people gone for the last 2 3/4 years, I tend to doubt it. If it were true, I assume it would have happened by now. Also, if it's true, then - as a 30% stakeholder - I would expect @ned to still have more of a presence.

I wondered about that bit too and maybe ned does still have some ninja stake tucked away under a mattress somewhere. Or like you suggest, maybe the TRX integration was that step 🤷‍♂️

I'm fairly certain that the Hive witnesses had already been planning to fork for a long time, and they were just waiting for an excuse, so they went all-in on FUD and misinformation when they launched their attack.

It was interesting to read a lot of complaints prior to the fork about lack of progress and development, much like the criticism we still see on Steemit. There was also a general feeling on the platform that people were looking for a fight and it didn't matter where they looked, they'd find one. I think we're somewhat fortunate that the haters all left together which has left us with pretty much ubiquitous peace and love 💖

Maybe not quite ubiquitous, and I do miss many of the people who left, but I mostly agree with this:

There was also a general feeling on the platform that people were looking for a fight and it didn't matter where they looked, they'd find one. I think we're somewhat fortunate that the haters all left together which has left us with pretty much ubiquitous peace and love 💖

There was a lot lot lot of toxicity that predated the JS buyout and disappeared when the fork happened. I don't miss that dysfunction at all. And I notice that when I do get curious and venture over there, I still see much of the same toxicity from some of the same players.

 last year 

Maybe not quite ubiquitous

Fair point.

One of the authors even mentioned something along the lines of "previous warring factions joined together like you would see in an alien invasion movie". I suppose that despite their common enemy (steemit), they've decided to return to their own conflict. I would say money's to blame but Twitter's probably worse.

 last year 

When I found out about Steemit and started writing here, one of the authors told me that everyone had switched to HIVE.

I think that something similar happened to me too, in an unnecessarily aggressive manner (not towards me but a rather venomous tone). I did try Hive but it never felt right trying to do both.

Oh, I was listening to The Prodigy too. Where is my youth...

Those were the days... I was fortunate enough to see The Prodigy at Reading Festival in 1998. Whilst bouncing around in the mosh-pit, I (literally) bumped into a friend from school. I can still feel the bass...

Oh the nostalgia... it's just too much.

Meets with all the other youths ;-))

Trifft sich mit allen anderen Jugenden ;-)))

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