Attention Newcomers~

in Newcomers' Community4 years ago (edited)

Hello, Newcomers of Steemit!

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Welcome to Steemit and we are happy to see you here. Lately, there is a sudden increase in the growth of newcomers into Steemit, and our workload in Steem Greeters Team also been double than before, but still the same numbers of team members that been doing the task of verifying your post at Newcomers Community especially the Newcomers' Achievement Program. We actually have a new method of verifying and rated your achievement task so that we would not miss each of your tasks post that you have published.

Now greeters team is doing catch-up on the post that already passed its curation windows of 7 days and also will start checking and verifying tasks that are from the oldest post to the latest in the date of publishing it.
For example, they will be catching up on the post from Newcomer A that is from the oldest in age from the "NEW" tab dropdown categories in the Newcomers' Community.

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The Workflow of Steem Greeters at Newcomers Community
The greeters will be verifying the achievement tasks post every day;

  • they will verify your achievements' tasks making sure you follow all the required tasks to be done and asking you to do some correction or add some more required information. Please make sure to follow their instruction on what needs to be done. For example, if your Achievement 1/Introdcution post not having a proper verification photo, please provide the proper one so they verify you and authorize you to the next achievements tasks. Everything you need to provide for the achievement tasks has been clearly stated on the guide, please just follow it through properly and the greeters team will check and giving it a Rate.
  • if your achievements task is ok and no correction needed, they will give your account a title for example "Achievement 1 verified" if you have passed your Achievement 1 task.
  • they will then leave a comment on how many Rate points they will give to your task based on your post accuracy, presentation, and other things that are in their judgment.

Rating points we will be used are as follow:

Achievement 1 rating scale metrics
For Achievement 1 we have allocated a maximum 25% VP from @steemcurator03 which is around 10$ upvote worth for each post at this time of writing.
Mentors may give a rating to each Introduction post on Achievement 1 as follow based on if the post has met all the criteria for passing the achievement with a high or low rating:
Rate 1 is 8%VP of steemcurator03
Rate 2 is 16% VP of steemcurator03
Rate 3 is 25% VP of steemcurator03

Achievement 2 to Achievement 6 rating scale metrics
Then for Achievement 2 to Achievement 6, we have allocated a maximum of 10% VP which is around 4$ upvote worth for each post at this time of writing.
Mentors may give a rating to each post on Achievement 2-6 as follow based on if the post has met all the criteria for passing the achievement with a high or low rating:
Rate 1 is 3%VP of steemcurator03
Rate 2 is 6% VP of steemcurator03
Rate 3 is 10% VP of steemcurator03

We will adjust this rating metrics/percentage of VP in accordance with the average price of Steem every 2 weeks if needed. This is because we will not use the same metric if the price of steem is 5$ for over 2 weeks for instance.

  • next they will update your details such as the date you been verified,your achievement 1 post link into the google sheet for record of verified newcomers.
  • they will then update the SUT SUT - Steemit New User Tracking - Adding Remaining Countries To Track Newcomers' Activity/List so we have a record of how many newcomers still active on steemit after being verified.
  • when it is their turn to curate/upvote with @steemcurator03, they will be looking up for the post that already verified, checked, and has Rate from the oldest post to the latest verified posts, if your post has been expired/already pass the 7 days curation window, they will upvote any of your active post as an exchange to the missed curation window post of yours.

That is the overall workflow of Steem Greeters mentor and curators on Newcomers Community. We hope that you understand our situation when your post not being verified at an instant. There are very long queues of post that is waiting to be verified ahead of yours. Steem greeters team consists of Country Representative who also managing several other communities on Steemit, so they do not do this full time, it is an additional task for them.

Hopefully with the new incoming Country Representative that will be appointed soon will aid us on this gigantic task.

Currently, these are the greeters that are actively verifying and curating newcomers achievement program ;

Countries / RegionCurators/Mentors
Spanish speakers countries curators@adeljose @tocho2 @inspiracion @wilmer1988
African countries curators@bright-obias @njaywan @whitestallion @saxopedia @yohan2on
Indian subcontinents countries curators@tarpan @hassanabid @neerajkr @haidermehdi
English speakers countries ASIA/SEA/European/North America/Oceania.curators@saxopedia @yohan2on @cryptokannon @inspiracion
Indonesian/Bahasa speakers curators@radjasalman @anroja

Some could not be doing the task of verifying daily as they have other works in the Steemit Community that need their attention too as they are Country Representatives and also building and managing several communities besides the task of Steem Greeters Team project.

This is the Roster of when is the turn of each greeter to upvote with @steemcurator03
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSuYG-AksHTMasWvTEu7nK3aISnq8K3cXQUhZX8m8bxoQiYI4cMGRIFekNq2wSdBb9BWCqTaR1QC2Rq/pubhtml?gid=0&single=true

DayGroupCurators
MondayGroup 1@adeljose @tocho2 @inspiracion @wilmer1988
TuesdayGroup 2@bright-obias @njaywan @whitestallion @saxopedia @yohan2on
WednesdayGroup 3@tarpan @hassanabid @neerajkr @haidermehdi
ThursdayGroup 4@saxopedia @yohan2on @cryptokannon @inspiracion
FridayGroup 5@radjasalman @anroja
SaturdayGroup 2@bright-obias @njaywan @whitestallion @saxopedia @yohan2on
SundayGroup 1@adeljose @tocho2 @inspiracion @wilmer1988

They will be using UTC timezone as a reference for the day on curation as greeters live at different timezone.

What to do if your post has not been visited?

No need to be anxious
Let say you have published your achievement tasks post for a few days now, and no curators coming to attend to your post yet, don't worry, they will be coming to you soon as they are working through the tasks from the oldest post to the latest one, so we don't know when they will arrive at your turn, as you see currently there is about 1430 active poster in this community and that means at about 14300 posts to be verified as each newcomer will have to submit 10 posts for this Newcomers Achievement Program.

We would be grateful if you could patiently wait for your post to be verified and please be on the lookout if they have arrived at your post and asking you to do any correction.
If for example, your post has passed 7 days, you may post your post link on the latest announcement post of Newcomers' community so greeters may look at it and check it out if they need some correction, then they will vote any of your active post as an exchange to the achievements' post-task that has expired. Note that greeters might still could not attend to your post at an instant if they still catching up with the previous/oldest posts

Chilling at Steemit Nursery Community
While waiting for your task to be verified, you can go to Steemit Nursery and hang out there, meeting other Newcomers and also existing Steemit users through the contests that the greeters team organizing there. You may post any contents that are of your interest there too and please don't forget to attach your Achievement 1/Introduction post link at the end of every of your post in there so curators and others get to know you better and you will get a better chance of getting support from them if you're doing this.



Possible solution for the lack of human resource on verifying the achievement tasks

I have discussed with my team member about hiring a user with the title of Pro Newcomers Verified user on Newcomers Community(they are the users that already completing their Newcomers Achievement Task) to help with verifying, checking, and guiding the newcomers that are still on this program. They will be title "Greeter Helpers".

Greeter Helper task on verifying Achievement 2 to Achievement 6 tasks posts

Their tasks will be checking, give correction if needed and leave a comment that the tasks have been verified, then giving it a Rate Point so the Greeters team will upvote the post later with @steemcurator03 when it is their turn to curate. They will only be checking Achievement 2 to Achievement 6.

Greeters Team will verify Achievement 1/Introduction post and the Compilation Posts

  • The Greeters team will still have to verify the Newcomers introduction post or Achievement 1 task post as this needs to be recorded on the SUT and also google sheet and proper verification.
  • Greeters will upvote the tasks post of Achievement 2-6 that already being checked, verified, and rated by the "Greeter Helpers" with @steemcurator03.
  • Greeters team will review all the Achievement tasks from Achievement 1-6 through the compilation achievements tasks post and then giving the user a "Pro Newcomers Verified" badge/title at Newcomers' Community.

Reward for Greeter Helper works

We will be using @steemcurator03 to reward their work according to their daily work report. We propose an upvote worth $10 for their daily report work, and they should have verified at minimum 30 posts per day to get the full $10 upvote worth. We would be glad if @steemcurator01 team could upvote some of their reports too.

Hopefully with the new addition of Country Representative that will be appointed soon will help with the workload and also with the hiring of Greeter Helper as we proposed in this post.

Thank you for the continuous support on Steem Greeters Team Project.

Best Regards,
Steem Greeters Team.

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 4 years ago (edited)

Thank you @cryptokannon for this update, and for coordinating all this work.

We will be announcing new Country Representatives very shortly who may be able to help as well.

We will look out for the posts as well.

Thank you for the support and we are very looking forward to the new help from incoming Country Reps 🤩

Hi @cryptokannon I really like to comment and correct publications, what would be the requirements to join the team? I'm to order. I can comment on 30 publications a day or more, I have the time and I also like it

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Hi @michellechristie thank you for your offer to help. We would require you to complete all the achievement tasks or have a good understanding of how it works and it would help if you could make a post about each of the achievements post, summary of what needed to be done on the tasks by the newcomers in order for you to authorize them to the next achievement task. I will post about the application for Greeter Helpers shortly.

 4 years ago 

We are looking for help

 4 years ago 


Saludos @cryptokannon, me gustaría ser ayudante de bienvenida, soy nuevo en steemit pero estoy bastante familiarizado con el funcionamiento, actualmente estoy en el logro 5 pero revisando los que me faltan tengo conocimiento acerca de su contenido, dedico cerca de 16 horas diarias a steemit en busca de poder avanzar dentro de la plataforma, si pudieran ponerme a prueba garantizo la revisión de mas de 50 publicaciones diarias y puedo hacerlo en un periodo de prueba sin recompensa a cambio, solo quiero hacer de steemit mi trabajo fijo y estable, agradecería si me ayudara , se del gran trabajo que desempeña y la admiro por eso. saludos.

Thank you for your offer. You would need to complete all the achievements tasks first and get the Pro Newcomer Verified title.

 4 years ago 

Así lo haré, cuando tenga mi titulo le contactare en otro anuncio, saludos.

 4 years ago 

🖐🏽Hola daniromero, cómo estás?
Mi nombre es Joxi, en steemit: @misscoquetas
He leído varios comentarios y veo que estás familiarizado muy bien con esta red social Steemit.
La razón de mi comentario es la siguiente; yo soy nueva en esta red social y no la entiendo bien, esta es la primera comunidad en la que me uni y tengo entendido que hay que publicar una serie de logros.
Y mi pregunta es, cuales son las pautas a seguir en cada logro? En esta publicación hablan de una guía, pero no sé cómo conseguirla.
Me podrías ayudar con eso?
O me podrías indicar cómo conseguir la guía🙏🏽
Te lo sabré agradecer.!

 4 years ago 


Hola amiga @misscoquetas, primero que todo quiero darte la bienvenida a steemit, pude ver en tu perfil que aun no has publicado, el primer paso sera que hagas una publicación de presentación normal, puedes comentarnos acerca de lo que te gustaría hacer en steemit, tus datos personales de donde eres y cosas así, incluyes al menos un par de fotos, esta publicación la puedes hacer en la comunidad de recién llegados o Newcomers Comunity.

 4 years ago 

Muchas Gracias daniromero.!
🥰🥰🥰

 4 years ago 


Con respecto a lo que me comentas de los logros efectivamente se nos asignan una serie de logros que deberemos completar, este es el enlace de los parámetros que debes seguir para realizar tu logro nro 1. Información de los logros, una vez publiques tu logro 1 deberás esperar un par de días a que un CR te lo revise y valide, en ese momento te dará el enlace para el logro siguiente y así hasta el final.

 4 years ago 

Ooh ya entiendo.!!
Muchas gracias de verdad.!!

 4 years ago 


El siguiente paso sera publicar si esta a tu alcance algo que llamamos el juego del diario, como su nombre lo dice se trata de que publiques lo sucedido en tu día a día, si quieres puedes ver en mis publicaciones mis diarios, incluyes el saludo, y cuentas la secuencia de tu día, incluyes una foto un párrafo de unas 6 lineas y así, puedes ver las etiquetas que debes colocar en mis diarios, y estas publicaciones del diario las vas a hacer en la comunidad Steemit Nursery

 4 years ago 

Ooo ok.
Ya veo su perfil para tener más idea.
Muchas gracias por la ayuda.
😊

Greetings @cryptokannon and @steemcurator01

I would like to know, if you allow me to create a post to promote a particular strategy where I invite you to use an additional tag, to summarize the search for posts related to the achievements in Newcomer, such as #adeljose2 for those who publish the achievement 2 for latinamerica, in this way, maybe I will not be able to cover the visits completely but it will make it much easier for me to reach the posts faster.

I would like to know your opinion.

#affable

@adeljose I think it is better to use a tag like #spanishgreeter for Latin America/Spanish speakers post

Ok, sounds good to me, then I can make the publication?

Great Idea @adeljose. It would make things a lot easier but many newcomers almost forget to add achievement1 tag and even their country tag. Also they are looking for guidance here and there. All they get is the Notice Board by Cryptokannon. So it would be upto cryptokannon perhaps to update this tag in the Notice board posts.

Also if this has to be done, then there are the country tags that differentiate the posts, so how would adding this tag be more beneficial?

Some mixed thoughts in my mind regarding this. Sounds great at first, but a little awkward and less useful after a while..

Cheers, Haidermehdi.

There is one weakness for this; which is the newcomers usually forgot to put the correct/required tag to make our work less hard.
it is good for other greeters that only curate/checking one specific language for example spanish written post, or indonesian language posts and etc. Not that much help for English written posts curators..

 4 years ago 

Aslam u Alikum @haidermehdi I have done my achievement 4 post 2 days ago
https://steemit.com/hive-172186/@ziabutt3836/achievement-4-by-ziabutt3836-task-applying-markdowns
Kindly check it, whether it correct or need some corrections.
Thanks for your act of kindness.

You have to try to ease the process, and moving between publications has been uphill, because sometimes it takes a while or you go back to the beginning.

you may propose the suggestion first and see how it will be beneficial to both the curators and newcomers. For Spanish speakers greeters, it would help them filter through the post, but usually, newcomers forgot to put a correct tag on their post and if the curator/greeter checking the post based on tag, these posts without a correct tag would be missed by them.

Yes, the truth is that the use of tags has been a problem, I will try to do something that stimulates and facilitates the visualization and review of the publications related to achievements.

 4 years ago 

Ya realice las correcciones de mi logro 2 pero en la espera ya venció el plazo de la 7 dias

 4 years ago 

Thank you Mem @cryptokannon
I already post my achievement2 but it already passed 13 days but not verified.
Please check it and help me to verify it

My achievemnet 2 link given below :
https://steemit.com/hive-172186/@alifalashikcse/achievement-02-or-or-or-basic-security-of-your-steemit-account-or-or-or-by-alifalashikcse

 4 years ago 

Eagerly waiting for the new list of country representatives!

 4 years ago 

Honestly, I also can't wait to see a new CR in each country, and especially for Indonesia I really hope that the new CR can continue to develop this steemit platform in a better direction.

regards

 4 years ago 

Greetings to all Respectable Seniors and Our beautiful and beloved STEEMIT TEAM Most Respected @cryptokannon and @steemcurator01 !
You guys are working very hard to make everything possible. Yes this platform is growing up with speed and more beautifully... I am from Pakistan and In my village many people are joining this platform quickly.. but we have a very big problem that in our country pakistan there are 4 provinces... As our two pakistani Country Representative are there but the distance between our province and their province is too much there is no Air transport and by road it took 2 days to reach there !
In short we want a country Representative from our province "Punjab"
And we all are supporting Sir @yousafharoonkhan due to his hardwork for steemit as he is leading us from the first in punjab.. it will be good for us and as well as for rapidly growing platform of STEEMIT. As Sir Yousafharoonkhan has also submitted an application for COUNTRY REPRESENTATIVEs.. so please you can check his application and his rankings in steemit and also you will realize his hardwork what he done for steemit !
Waiting for your kind reply Thanks to all our Respected Team😊

 4 years ago 

It would be great forum for us as we are new comers in steemit

The greeter helpers is a best idea and might help us alot while verifying those Achievements.
Actually i tried those ratings system but seems like there are some mentioning issues and maybe Those roasters of the day didn't got notification about mention which caused delay aswell.

Though we are trying our best at Wednesday UTC time for indian Sub continent and i hope with the help of Greeter helpers we could succeed over it Successfully..!

Also i would suggest to increase the upvote given by @steemcurator03 to Greeters & Curators from 10% to atleast 40% as its not just as easy as it looks we have to maintain spreadsheets , Sut's and also we are trying to check over abuse control.

Let me know if @steemcurator01 @steemcurator02 and @cryptokannon agree's with it :)

Actually what would be difference between ( a simple post writter getting 30-40$ upvote ) and a greeter who is maintaining all those things getting the same upvote.

Actually i tried those ratings system but seems like there are some mentioning issues and maybe Those roasters of the day didn't got notification about mention which caused delay aswell.

for this, curators will only upvote those with the Rate point, or if the mentors forgot to add the Rate point, you may judge how much upvote it should be given and help remind the mentors who forgot to put the Rate point for his/her next work of verification.

Though we are trying our best at Wednesday UTC time for indian Sub continent and i hope with the help of Greeter helpers we could succeed over it Successfully..!

the verification work may be doing daily and based on which continents/countries you were assigned to. Then for upvote with steemcurator03 this will be based on group, not based on country, and they will upvote any post that already been verified,and have Rate point, from oldest to latest post order

Also i would suggest to increase the upvote given by @steemcurator03 to Greeters & Curators from 10% to atleast 40% as its not just as easy as it looks we have to maintain spreadsheets , Sut's and also we are trying to check over abuse control.

I understand it is a lot of work and taking up a lot of your time doing them, hopefully, steemcurator01 will give greeters team members that been working hard more upvote 🙂

Thankyou so much cryptokannon for understanding and giving wonderful feedback over it.

 4 years ago (edited)

Very true my Greeter hassanabid

 4 years ago 

Mam! I had posted My Achievement 2 post on 4th of May but still my post is not verified.
Please look into the matter

https://steemit.com/hive-172186/@ak3125/4ewcme-achievement-2-ak3125-basic-security-on-steem

#affable #india

 4 years ago 

I still at achievement3, n to night i'll post achievemnet4, thanks for support.! Lets be winner at steemit.

 3 years ago 

Must read here

Thank you for this update @cryptokannon.

 4 years ago (edited)

All suggestions made here are on point. Newcommers would be at ease now knowing their posts would definately get curated one way or another.

Can't wait for the list of new CRs though😅. Best of luck to all applicants.

Perfect Initiative mam.
Quite satisfied with the proposals and the ideas. I am sure it will be of great use.

 4 years ago 

Thank you for these details. I am waiting for my verification of achievement2

 4 years ago 

Good day @cryptokannon. I am very new to this platform. I'm exploring it now and would like to know if there is any format for my introduction post? Thank you so much!

Hi @misskaren welcome to Steemit! You may check the pinned post on Notice Board. All the guides are there.

 4 years ago 

Thank you @cryptokannon. I've read one of the posts already which I also replied. I'm working on with my introductory post now. Thank you so much for your reply. I really appreciate it. :)

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