Do You Want An Upvote or A Comment? Why?
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I spent many hours per day commenting.
More than the average Steemian (not difficult) and try to add something (energy) to this platform. Are all comments welcome? No way. Many receivers don't care and if they receive a comment at all they do not respond or keep the reply as short as possible. How come? What makes them act this way except for not being interested in engaging which takes? We all know that to many it is nothing more than a necessary evil to be listed on the Noise List or previously have a chance to win at an SEC contest.
During the past years an incredible effort was given to make those posting comments as well. In the past we had @paulag, today there are still communities like Italy and a few others who do their best to motivate members in different ways and in most cases commenters make a chance to win a prize. Does this trick them into commenting more? This is not my experience if it comes to my contest and again it's true that the same people are the good commenters no matter if they receive a prize.
I host comment contests which get a good response, at least if I keep inviting and commenting.
Internet
It is not as I recently read that everyone has internet or enough data. That is only something that someone who has a constant (fiber?) connection believes. If you need to buy data (and there is a limit to GB and money) then you will have to choose what to do with it and... privately you will also need it.
No interest
We don't have to beat around the bush, most of the people present are not writers and never will be. The reason they don't write a comment is because they:
A: only post something to make a profit (investors)
B: can barely read and therefore do not understand what the text is about,so there is nothing to write about it.
C: make a quick post in the hope that it will receive an upvote (notifications are not read by default) - Steemit is secondary
D: Tiredness Steemit related (sooner or later everyone gets tired of the same messages over and over again. Yes, it is possible to read/find something different but you have to invest time and need to step out of your comfort zone. Steemit has much more to offer than what you usually see) or daily life related).
Internet Trolls
I don't think that internet trolls are what this platform is looking for if it hopes more people will take the time to leave a comment on an article or comment. I don't believe I came across them (not on other platforms either) but I do come across the summaries made by AI.
Once again I would like to state that these are not good comments for me and in my opinion they do not belong on the Noise List and should not be upvoted by a curator.
Can commenting be learned?
The answer is: Yes. Unfortunately, it appears that those who learn it are not very motivated to continue doing it. Is there something else underlying this than the points mentioned above?
To those who see Steemit as their main source of income, that is certainly the case. Most of the "functions" Steemit offers are paid and writing comments is not one of them.
Once you have acquired a certain title, you will not lose your income quickly, even if you do nothing (think of writing something unique, actively participating in your own contest, being an active Steemit Representative, being an active moderator, writing a post...
The question @fajrularifst asked in a thread following his article about the usefulness of commenting was whether Steemians with a position should set a good example.
I think so, but I also run into the fact that no matter how often I ask curators, team members, moderators, SRs and the hosts of contests (there is no need to do that, it only takes time and if you ignore this question, there is nothing anyone can do about it).
#diginnasio
The Italy community started a new discussion (see Digitaly #72 - #diginnasio) in which you can participate in. You can leave your response as a comment in the comment section or post about it (use the hashtag mentioned in both cases).
The question is: What would you rather have, an upvote or a comment?
Is there are reason to comment if not commenting is supported? Doesn't this actually mean that NOT commenting is rewarded?
Who are those people who do comment?
If it comes to good comments these are always the same people no matter if they receive an upvote or not. I can make it look better than it is but this is a fact. If these commenters stop commenting those following them stop commenting as well.
Commenting takes time, more time than most think, especially if done while using a phone. It is not that I write a #comment within a few minutes and yes there are times that my eyes and fingers hurt and I can hardly hold my phone. Time can be a reason but at the same time, I don't believe this is the main reason why it is not possible to write 3 comments if you post. Not even 3 comments of 25 words... It's more like a lack of habit and politeness.
Links
- Leave A Comment by @fajrularifst
- Digitaly #72 - #diginnasio
- Vote or Comment - #diginnasio entry by @xiao-aine
Unfortunately I have to agree. It is becoming increasingly common to see that
Replying to posts and comments takes time. Many people invest their time in another post rather than actually communicating with other users.
Unfortunately, this is often supported by the fact that posts are rewarded better on average than comments.
The other side of the coin is that many are surprised that they are not noticed. They don't realise that the only way to get noticed on a platform like this is by interacting with other users.
So they wait for a vote from the community curators or the SC and complain here too when this doesn't come in sufficient numbers.
So my tip (and wish):
Commenting gets you more attention in the long term. The more interested people know you on the platform, the more people read the posts and the more votes you get. I think a post only becomes valuable through good comments.
And: answer and vote for meaningful comments that you have received. Imagine you speak to someone on the street and get no reply...
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This is exactly the problem that I'm trying to improve with the SCA (which is how I saw this comment). Unfortunately, I'm just too d*mned slow at building it. ;-)
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I know and I'm also really sorry that I can't help you much.
Once it has reached a certain level, we really need to think about how we can get the extension into the stores. The developer installation in Firefox is really annoying.
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I definitely agree about eventually getting it into app stores when it's more mature. Developer made is a big barrier to adoption.
Maybe those who regularly leave comments get tired of not receiving replies. People rarely comment back. Sad but true.
I agree with the fact that commenters who write good comments are the same people. I know that this is a time consuming activity too. I have been there =P.
I saw that post in Italy community. It is an interesting question. Of course, up-votes are going to grow an account a lot faster. However, I would go with comments. Because, there is a chance that I will be able to have a meaningful conversations with others.