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RE: Today I learned that it's possible to resteem a comment/reply (sort-of)

in Steem Oasis 🌴4 months ago

Of course, this is possible if you manually create the corresponding custom_json operation. Only the author and the permlink need to be specified for the reblog operation. For the chain, a comment is the same as a post, only with a depth > 0.

In the conderser, the reblog button is simply hidden. So if you create the operation without the condenser, this is not a problem.

The last current hurdle is Hivemind, as the resteems of comments are not processed. Therefore, they cannot appear in the feed.

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Of course, this is possible if you manually create the corresponding custom_json operation.

Yeah, when I thought about it today, it seemed obvious that it should work (and it did), but for some reason I always thought it was blocked.

The last current hurdle is Hivemind, as the resteems of comments are not processed.

So, that branch should obviously be removed from hivemind and replaced with an option to filter by depth in condenser (and other front ends). Although, the subsequent code adding the resteemed content to the feed could also depend on the existence of fields from the top-level (like "Title"), so it might not be quite that simple.

I also wonder why this was not taken into consideration. These code lines have been there from the start. If we wanted to include them now, the entire database would have to be re-synchronised.

A title would actually be missing (with the current condenser). However, it could be replaced by the title of the root post if the comment was not given a title.

My guess is that the original implementers were concerned about spamminess. There was sort of a militant attitude about "quality content". I guess this would have been fine if we had enough "quality content" to attract lots of readers. But that has almost never been the case.

My own opinion is that velocity trumps quality for drawing attention. I'd rather have a feed that feels like vibrant bazaar than one resembling a pristine chapel that nobody visits. Therefore, I like Twitter's current approach of welcoming both long and short-form posting.

For Steem, if someone doesn't want to see the resteemed replies, I think it's a good idea to have a filtering option in the front end, but I don't see a reason to filter it at the blockchain. If a feed is spammy, then people can just "unfollow" or turn off visibility or resteemed replies.

If we wanted to include them now, the entire database would have to be re-synchronised.

Ugh. I hadn't thought of that. So you almost need to find a way to double-up the infrastructure and do a hot cutover once the resynch finishes.

A title would actually be missing (with the current condenser). However, it could be replaced by the title of the root post if the comment was not given a title.

This is what I was thinking, too.

I think it's a good idea to have a filtering option in the front end

Yes, this is an alternative. When requested by the frontend, it could be specified whether comments should be retrieved in the feed or not. Or they are retrieved in any case and only not displayed in the frontend. There are various approaches.

to filter it at the blockchain

It happens only on Hivemind.

Ugh. I hadn't thought of that.

I can't remember why I assumed a re-sync. No comments have been resteemed yet. So, nothing would have to be replayed... I'll have to take a closer look again... my list is getting longer and longer... :-)

It happens only on Hivemind.

Sorry, yeah, if I'm not careful, I think of everything behind the API endpoint as "blockchain". Lazy way of thinking about it.

No comments have been resteemed yet. So, nothing would have to be replayed...

Well, at least 1 comment has been resteemed, but none that anyone cares about. 😉

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