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RE: I Wonder If Bid Bots Can Be Made Less Harmful?
If I had something to say - the problem would be solved quickly. Add the new BBBS section to the start page. Remove all articles with botvotes from Trending, New & Payouts and move them to the BBBS subsection. Problem solved for everyone involved.
The investors aka bot users don't give a shit if their posts are being read or commented on.
You can even throw them out of the hashtag lists. It won't bother them.
They want their profit. That's it ;)
Steemit Trending is certainly controlled by steemit.com and the proposal from @peppermint24 by adding the BBBS section to the home page and remove all articles with botvotes from trending, new & payouts and move them to the bbbs subsection will definitely be done
@steemcurator01 probably know if there can be an opportunity to do so.
I also believe that a Bidbot can pay some bonuses from the profits to their ivestors who delegate in order to get a higher profit without having to post every day, then it will be more tidy on the trend side
For exmeal they will get the usual 50/50 distribution + 10% in addition from Bidbot for not posting themselves but only investing to get the disapproval,
There are probably many who are tired of posting every day just to get max profit, it can be a good idea we get less dirt on the trending side
That would be the best change since 2017. OK, you can call it something more serious. Instead of BBBS, you could call it SPI. Stuff promoted by investors.
There was once a "Promoted" section, but those were the articles you could promote with a STEEM shipment to @null. The BBBS stuff was still in the trends.
WORD!
Den Promoted-Bereich gibt es immernoch. Um dort angezeigt zu werden, müssen allerdings SBD an @null mit dem Artikellink als Memo überwiesen werden.
Zum Rest antworte ich unter den anderen Kommentaren.
Ja erste Sahne. Und von wo/wie von der Startseite kommt man da hin, wenn man diesen Link nicht kennt? Irgendwie war das doch mal so, dass man das Hashtag spezifisch bewerben konnte, oder?
Da sagst du was! Das ist so eine der Fragen, über die ich nur den Kopf schütteln kann - also eigentlich über die Antwort zu dieser Frage. Promotion sieht schon anders aus...
Hm, das ist mir nicht bekannt.
Jo. Ist so wie ne Werbeagentur, die Geld für Plakatwerbung kassiert und wenn du fragst, wo denn geworben wird und gesagt bekommst: "Die Plakate hängen bei uns unten im Materialkeller!"
Ha! Gut, wenn man so alte Screenshots mal aufhebt.
Alleine auf diesem kleinen Ausschnitt sieht man, wie viele Rückschritte die Plattform gemacht hat. SoMe Share Buttons, Counter und da rechts oben der Promo Button.
Das hatte ich sogar genutzt. Wenn du auf einen Hashtag geklickt hast, den du verwendet hast, dann in der Artikelliste deinen Artikel aufgerufen und auf Promo geklickt kam man zur Wallet, wo die Daten zu deiner Seite dann schon hinterlegt war und dein Artikel war dann unter dem Hashtag für 1 Tag oben mit Vermerk "Promoted" gepinnt. Waren aber maximal 2 Artikel und lief wie bei GoogleAds im Bieterverfahren. Wer das meiste gezahlt hat wurde da halt gepinnt.
The "trending" calculations are realised via hivemind.
The trending posts are fetched from the condenser with
bridge.get_ranked_postsand the parametersort=trending.A new sort category could add without a hardfork. But a new category would be required. This would have to be changed in the Condenser and in Hivemind.
In my opinion, it would be "simpler" to exclude the posts with votes from various known bots from the trending calculation. The only difficulty here would be defining the conditions for this.
Which accounts? Which vote value?
The code is public anyway and the bot list could become a transparent part of the Hivemind code.
I am currently working on another new function for the Condenser in Hivemind.
If we can clarify the open questions about the trending, an implementation would be quite conceivable.
This is a great idea! This is roughly what @the-gorilla does in his interface.
Yes, I have seen that. I really like @the-gorilla's interface and especially the sorting options.
By the way. What about the zombie hunt in the Steem building? Do I arrive too late and all the zombies are already killed?
I had already prepared myself well. Damn!
As far as I can tell, some kind of glitch has crept into the code. @the-gorilla tried to find it, but the code has become so large that it takes a very long time. He postponed this work until better times.
This is probably the simplest and cleanest way to do it, but my question is... how would we actually get the coding done on steemit.com to make this change? Does the Tron team do any development at all on Steemit.com anymore? And if so, who would monitor the coding to make sure all new and existing bidbots are including in the algo...?
That's a very good question. I have the distinct feeling that the whole "Steemit.com thing" is like a ghost ship without a captain. For example, I've tried to communicate with the official Twitter account - no chance. No feedback. I think the X account is also a bot. Posting the engagement challenges but can't respond otherwise. :)
As I replied to @xpilar, the questions you mentioned need to be discussed and the conditions defined accordingly.
Implementation in the code is then the easiest part...
I don't think it's possible to automatically detect future bots. However, the list could be updated with a transparent code change.