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Can it be you are not easily satiesfied just like me? I do it quicker and work myself through a pile of paper (my child said what the h... where did it all go and was also the one who said: you should do it quickly just scratch.
@rashid001 his son said the same so I believe if we "just scratch" more we become more routine (or not). LOL

BTW A friend scribbles in a different way and I like what he creates and he does it very precisely and it takes days. So.. you are fast.

Can it be you are not easily satiesfied just like me?

Yes, but I also like to take my sweet time (I’m a bit of a slowpoke). Lol with your child: what the h...? I bet that child takes after you. ;-)) or not?

Takes days? I can understand if your friend scribbles a landscape...

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I guess we all are the same, it runs in the family...
one said after lessons 1: you messed it up, I can't make it look better, do this and that, frowned and left

The youngest said: why does it take so long? You should just scratch a bit, no need to make figures and shapes (what I want).

My friend? His scribbles (the background and drawing) have messages which I love to see (discover) and puzzle it out. So yes it takes long and more concentration to leave it all behind.

I am not sure if a landschap takes that long.. perhaps NY on a wall?

LOL, it feels like a happy bunch to me. They almost sound like 'little' versions of you though...

Oh, that's why it took him days. So your friend incorporates puzzles into the drawing? that's a fun way to approach art.. I initially thought it took him days just to sketch an apple or some small object. I guess everyone has their own unique approach when it comes to creating art.

I have no idea if a landscape takes that long...perhaps yes? There are so much details to consider...

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They are all creative, intelligent, live in their world and this is how it goes.
At a certain point they arrive home - all start their own stories/irritations/thoughts at the same time - in between replying to another and showing evidence. Next it is abrubtly quiet and they disappear to their rooms to do whatever they do (busy and so...).

It reminds me of the howling of the wolves I keep.

He would say he's a slowpoke as wellbut he works very concentrated and it's good for him. It's also next to a job but I think he's not that slow at all.
I like to follow the lines and find the riddles and already saw them before he mentioned it so actually that is what I want to try as well and was my first lesson attempt. I don't think if it comes to scribbling or art we all should work in the same way. The progress will be in develooing our own style and handwriting. Copy-paste is great (I do have respect for copiers of famous paintings better than Mr. Bean) a newn style, insight is better because this involves our feelings.
It's good to learn new technics and this isn't time consuming and I try to do it in between in tiny, small and big.

I want to give something to my friend but that will take time. I am not easily satisfied if it comes to whatever I create.

As I understand from one teacher (see the video I shared with @sbamsoneu in tjis comment section) the best is to not get into details too much.
What I also like he said is that a great thing is that you work at all parts of the drawing at the same rime. So if you feel you get stuck you continue somewhere else. I believe he mentioned sheets but I didn't check that out.

You know that once you can read you can also read if the letters are switched or deketed.
It works the same for drawings. Details not drawn your brain knows it's there and also fills out the colours. Same as it did as we had a black and white YV and only took black and white photos.

We can try out ourselves to scribble a city 🤔 as extra practice to answer our question.

It reminds me of the howling of the wolves I keep.

It's an interesting pack you keep. Are they drawn to arts, too?

I agree that each of us has different ways of creating art or approaching it - I mean, we eventually go our own ways once we get too familiar with the basics.

I think we are all copiers first. We begin by learning the ropes and discovering different methods until we eventually discover our own style and that's when we start to go our own way. I don't know, I'm not an expert in this so I should probably won't say much...

I watched the videos you shared, It's pretty interesting. I learned that my scribbling was too stiff and frigid. When I looked at their hand movement, they were very free-flowing.

I recently bought a book about painting but there was a section there about drawing. I read an interesting tip: when drawing (especially when you're starting), don't use a pencil or charcoal as you will be tempted to correct or erase your work.

Scribbling a city might not be possible as per the youtube video, a city landscape is very much detailed - scribbling might not be the appropriate style...but I think we can always try?

 27 days ago 

Eldest draws, is a model, visagist, has a vintage shop, paints daily and teaches creativity lessons at 2 institutions.

Two are born with a pencil in their hands.. Traces of drawings everywhere, one is an animator, voice artist, filmmaker and these two are also great with computers... So I don't think they are drawn to arts 🤣

We have to copy first and figure out ourselves what works best and can be it will happen coincedentalky, most likely that will be the case. Copying is good if yiur goal is to restaurate art.

In an earlier video it was explained that the higher you hold the pen/pencil the loser the movements will be. You can tey that out. So wide movements hold the pen high, if ut should be darker and more precise hold it close to the rip/paper. I noticed that the pen and paper you use can make it more difficult ir go smoothers. My first pen kept leaking (or the second) very annoying and the bleached paper I find harder.

I never erase because I learned that if you do that you can't see your "mistajes" but also it is a trigger to make something bettee/good out of what went wrong. I like that (A top chef pastry once said: it's not about how it looks if it comes out of the oven as long as the taste is good but what you can make out of it! That's the true artist.

A city is possible I think if you focus on the big lines and leave the rest to the imagination. We all know what cities can look like although by far not every city is a big apple.

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