RE: ہم اور اردو
No, please don't get speechless - you have too much to say for that... ;-)
Well, I don't usually read posts in other characters (Urdu, Bengali, Chinese, Korean... all difficult to translate, with Urdu causing by far the most difficulties...). From friends who are important to me, of course. Now that was your my our luck: Hira resteemed your post. Then it's either good or important or both. I really enjoyed reading it (at the end after successful translation, LOL) as I said.
pardon my laziness as a translator
No! I admire the fact that you stuck strictly to Urdu (certainly also in the knowledge that the number of readers will be limited in this way). After all, it was about this language. And what better way to write about a language and its fate than to use that language as a tool?
Every translation distorts a little what we actually want to say, what we actually think, what we are capable of expressing in an elaborate way in our mother tongue.
I, for example, only write informative texts in English. Then I stick to short, easy-to-understand sentences. Translations are sufficient for this, information always works.
Everything else I write consistently in my mother tongue, German. German, ‘the language of poets and thinkers’. German can be a flowery language, we have an incredible number of ways to play with it (an often envied unique selling point are the compound nouns, which ultimately offer an infinite number of possibilities for linguistic art). I love German, I love linguistics, I love language games - even if they are barely noticeable. These are what characterise my texts.
German is not that difficult to translate, but the nuances that make my German-speaking readers smile are often missing. I have no desire to optimise my texts for translation (professional human translators could), but want to write as I am. I can only do this well in “my” language.
I studied linguistics and actually read old dictionaries from time to time. That's how I ended up writing a few articles about funny stylistic blossoms in the German language. They are extremely amusing. In translation, however, they hardly make any sense. German to English, mind you...
Warm regards from cold northern Germany,
Chriddi
This is enough to provoke someone's curiosity about German literature! I think now I should explore your literature, authors and poets. (obviously the English translation).
So this is a bit unfortunate for us (and true for any language, I got your point )but I can feel your attachment to your language. I hope I'll explore the wonders of Germany and the German literature with youSo far, I only know about "Berlin'' (from Money Heist) and, obviously, a little about the city as well.
I appreciate the cold German regards from hotest plains of Pakistan.❤️
Is it "the north" ... which... " remembers"? 😉
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Well, that's actually a popular saying that may have lost its validity a long time ago.
The 'poets' refer primarily to Goethe and Schiller, the 'thinkers' to great philosophers such as Kant, Hegel, Marx...
Which doesn't mean that there aren't contemporary writers worth recommending.
Some Germans have won the Nobel Prize for Literature, many have died. I like Heinrich Böll and Thomas Mann, and Günter Grass is my favorite. They all exploit the possibilities of our language. Günter Grass plays with it so much that I can imagine that the translation alone is a kind of life's work. And so he was only honored for it almost 50 years after the publication of his greatest success ("The Tin Drum").
For example, I like to read Bernhard Schlink or Juli Zeh (as living authors), but I wouldn't do justice to the number of good German contemporaries if I (only) recommended them. If you're really interested, start with the classics... ;-)
I don't know much about/in Berlin. You'd actually have to ask weisser-rabe about that - she just recently moved away from there... ;-)
Unfortunately, I don't understand your last question.
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You know what? ''Das Capital'' by Karl Marx is already on my bucket list. I'm aware about the importance and impact of Marxism. To be honest, I think this will be a tough read (due to the complex economics terms), so I've been procrastinating.
However, I've come across references to Marx in many Urdu books, and his critique of capitalism and theories about it are beyond objection.
Goethe is another familiar name. Our great poet and thinker, Alama Iqbal, was greatly inspired by him. Iqbal paid tribute to Goethe in both his poetry and prose. I know a bit about Hegel and his philosophy, but I found his writings too serious to handle. Maybe one day I'll read him.
The point is, I wasn't aware that these thinkers had German roots... I'm feeling a bit embarrassed!🤐
The other names you mentioned are new to me, so I looked up Juli Zeh, and she seems brilliant. I think her 'Eagles and Angels' will be my next read.
Well, mostly I prefer newer authors over old-timers.
Never mind, the last line was just a dialogue from the famous series 'Game of Thrones'.
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You have to keep a few secrets to yourself: I haven't read Marx or Hegel. Maybe in excerpts, because it was important at school or for university. That's far too demanding for me as "leisure reading". Please take care of yourself, don't take on too much!
And 'Game of Thrones'. Although my husband devoured all the books in this series, I haven't read a single one. Not a single sentence. And I haven't watched it on TV either... 🤭
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You are my sister for not watching or reading game of thrones. I can't read or watch something because everyone is doing it. It is in fashion, or out of fomo, how you gonna survive in the consumer society if you don't do what others are doing.
Will this society accept us?:p
I didn't read it even after my best friend's recommendation.
Fun fact: you can connect to others without these things too😉
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Oh, come on, dude! We're all part of society and follow trends, whether consciously or unconsciously. Lemme give you an example about pakistani popular fiction. Young girls mostly follow Nimra and Umera, and it's a trend among young readers to read at least Peer-e-Kamil or Jannat Ka Patty for once in their life.😉...
You and your killer instincts😛
I think fantasy, action, and thrillers are more worthwhile to watch rather than read.
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I don't follow trends but that show is true to its rating and hype. Haven't read the books because a friend told me both have different stories. Since I watched the show first, my mind can't accept alternate events or storyline. 😆
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Hahahaha that means society will judge us for not watching it?
Same was the case with HP, its movies were outclass, however, there were many differences in its book series.
I loved reading HP books more than watching it. Infact, i think both were good and enjoyable, both have their own charm and shouldn't be compared.
Like the scene when bellatrix was giving Hermione a tattoo on her arm, and bro her screams, goshhhh, kamal krdia tha usne pori movie m itni acting ni the jitni us scene m the🤣
What do you think?
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No nobody will judge you. I was just saying that GOT is not hyped, incase you ever make up your mind for it. But then again it's not for everybody especially if one can't stand explicit violence.
Books are always better. Movies can never capture hundreds and thousands of words in 90 minutes.
HP movies are great but again, books are far better. It's not the little changes in the storyline but it's the small details that they miss.
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So unlike me, take me to the world of classic authors, dear me 🙃
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Thank you very much, @nishadi89. I appreciate that you and your team are looking for good comments. A lot of them often need more effort than… well… ;-)
But most of the good comments are to find underneath very good posts (if not born in a discussion about the sense of a bad/plagiarized/AI-generated/blahblah post) because the good and interesting, often well written article causes them. Like here!
Here there are the commenters @aminasafdar, @event-horizon and me who got a vote from you but the author herself did not. Though it’s an outstanding post what each commenter told her.
This leaves a lightly bitter aftertaste for me regarding your otherwise good idea. If I were @mehwish-almas, I would by now at the latest be thinking about the injustice and arbitrariness of the curators. Well, I’m not @mehwish-almas, so speaking for myself: I feel very uncomfortable with the thought that each of the mentioned individuals (including myself) now has more rewards under their comment than the author herself received for her article (which is very well-written, intelligent, researched and full of effort - in case you haven’t read it or had translation issues, as I initially did, but that was addressed in my comment…). Not at all. Pity.
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Same happened with another post in this community. Not one, but two curation teams reached out and voted the comments under that post and both didn't think the post was worthy of their vote. Although the author shared the translated version in comments.
I'm also confused about this new trend.
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It really annoys me...
I don't like it when the sc teams "determine" which comment is the "most valuable" (because the one with the highest rewards moves up in the comment section). I've gotten used to that to some extent (although I still often shake my head, especially when it comes to overrated German-language comments: stupid, ideological content, but a loooot of text). But voting for comments without having read or voted for the post is a bit too far for me.
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🤡
I have spent a lot of time trying to understand those texts but failed.
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There are some more right now.
Maybe I should leave my own community, givinging full concentration to NO. NO! NO, NO! NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOO...
Our team, "Team True Colours," supports quality comments because the other curation team supports posts. That's why. If you had read our weekly report, you might not think this is confused. But you can ask the other curation team member who voted for those comments why they missed that post.
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I have read your weekly reports once or twice and saw that you guys nominate comments. That made me smile. I like your strategy. It's a great one to promote Engagement.
Here, the only problem is that, what forged such great comments under this post is the post itself which is exceptional. It deserves more rewards than all the comments' combined.
Wouldn't it be better if you guys vote parent posts along with the comments? I mean get in through the comments and if they are good enough then maybe read the post and if it's good too then vote it too.
This post is pretty much understandable with Google translation and since you have gone through the comment section, you should know the ChatGPT translated it pretty well too. I know it's a lot of trouble translating posts through different means but you could make effort for something that is capable for inducing great engagement, right?
Let me know what you think. 🙂
P.S. The other team didn't even bother to respond. 😛
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I do notice this, but the "true colors" mostly curate comments, and only a few posts. Kitty sets her own criteria for curation, as I've read in her curation reports over the months. The comments here truly deserve the recognition they receive. It was normal for me, but if another team had done it, I might have asked for the reason. Another reason was obviously the translation; I knew very well that it wouldn't make sense unless someone made as much effort as you did.
Believe me, your concern is worth more than any up vote.
However, Hira's concern is real, as she mentioned that two teams reached a post and voted on comments only, while the writer provided the translation as well. This issue should be addressed.
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Don't be mad at me, I've had a few very difficult days (privately) and now I don't want to deal with the topic any more.
Maybe I shouldn't have got involved in the first place, but this kind of thing just really annoys me - even though I know the "rules".
The Steem that I got to know had no "rules" apart from the netiquette...
We'll happily talk about it another time, I'm fine for now... 😉
It is not surprising that you are asking me such a question. Because even if there is someone else in your place, he or she may also have the same question. "Team True Colours" our curation team is committed to voting for quality comments unlike other teams. We definitely look for quality comments across this platform. We only vote for one post per day. All the rest of the votes are for comments. Other teams vote for quality content on the platform and we support quality comments. You will understand this by reading our weekly report. Also, this author is a good commenter. And I have supported to her, for her quality comment before. I think you understand what I am saying.
And I hope @mehwish-almas understands what I'm saying too.
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Yeah I know about the rules and regulations which kitty specified for her team.
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Thank you very much for your understanding, friend.
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Everything is fine... 😉
Please excuse my laziness...: https://steemit.com/@chriddi/sr2fzz
Okay 😊
Yeah it was weird to me too and the other day one of my acquaintances was saying that she gets more vote on comments than on a detailed post. Why bother oneself to write a blog then.
It makes us doubt if our posts will be worth it in newbie communities or not.
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Just answered event-horizon a minute ago with this comment.
The best starting point for writing a blog is to enjoy it. Without any expectations of rewards.
Of course, you should also write comments without expectations.
Letting the author of a very good text look at an empty plate while his guests eat their fill at the buffet is simply not nice. That's what annoys me.
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If i get this kind of engagement on my post, and you sharing your feedback and encouragement, then i will bother less about bigger vote honestly.
It is more fun to get genuine response, and we all know deep down that (@mehwish-almas )
you have made it.
Perhaps it was hard for sc team to read in other language. But i swear you can never get its essence in English. It was meant for Urdu readers, it was meant for a drawing room chit chat.
🙁
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Hahahaha Wawooooo, so is it what I should call a viral post.😉....but you penned exactly what I was thinking about it❤️
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Yes babe😍
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This is not something weird. It is difficult to read a blog in another language and give a good comment than to write a blog in our own language. You may or may not want to write a blog. That is your choice. If you think this is weird, I have one question for you. Have you read our team's weekly reports..?
With due respect Gihani, Yeah, i have read your report.
And I'm always in awe of how you guys are curating content in a creative way. I know your strategy thrives on curating comments more than blogs.
I know it's like going on a world tour to find comment worth curating. It is more hectic than voting a blog that's there like a billboard.
I'm also grateful for your support, which you show time to time on my comments as i am hesitant to post due to some reasons, but i didn't want to hibernate altogether.
And your support encourages me to comment more.
Take it or leave it we all do it for votes. If a person stops getting votes he or she will not write anymore out of their passion.
Same goes with blog/post, it is a bit disturbing when you upload it after taking time out of your busy schedule, out of enthusiasm, but no support comes your way.
We are just saying it out of empathy for our girl, we prefer women uplifting other women 😊
I hope you will not mind it and think it with your heart:)❣
Hi, this is @ wakeupkitty
If searching for comments you enter via a backdoor and do not see the post but a thread of comments first.
I like to put it the other way round: how does it feel for good commenters, with comments better than many posts, to see how a bad post is upvoted but all commenters are ignored?
If you read the guidelines of the team you know that we decided to search and voted for mainly comments. Next to that we have a limit of posts we vote per day (more a rate 1 post and x comments).
How come not one curator noticed this post?
Is it a pity True Colours tries to stand for something?
🤔
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Kitty, I'll be back tomorrow to answer you. I have an important appointment now... 👋
Hi Kitty,
I had some really bad (private) days and I think it's pointless to "discuss" the matter now.
But please: I neither complained nor asked anything, I just stated something. You don't have to answer that with a counter question.
By the way, you might laugh: I read the introductions and reports of all the curator teams. So I obviously know where your focus lies. All right. I didn't know that you go to the posts via the comments. I find that a difficult approach to understand. You have to know the article to be able to judge whether the comment is even appropriate...
Well, that's your business.
Have a nice Sunday evening and a good start to the week,
Chriddi