...that your observation of the object produced change in the object itself
Besides the fact that this indeed occurs while measuring quantum phenomena, my point was and is the following:
The sheet with the notes which Beethoven wrote changes only in regard of erosion of its matter while the written text remains the same. But! As music is a performance art, the 'interpretation' while playing the notes varies, and I am part of that varying in doing my own interpretations of the music and the feedback I give to my contemporaries as the listeners in concerts. There is no end of the interpretational process and the sounding music is not twice the same.
The discussion at this point: has Beethoven foreseen all possible interpretations? Was he able to arrange the sheet so, that such interpretations he would not agree to could be excluded?
This discussion gives loop back to creating music in regard of 'opera aperta' and 'aleatoric' composition techniques.
I don't deny that. And also, I'm a Jazz dilettante, so I completely get where you are coming from, but still, that does not deny my idea. The problem here, is I have mismanaged my explanation. I don't think our disagreement is real. I believe we are trading in definitions. Once we surpass that, the fun conversation will begin.
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The discussion at this point: has Beethoven foreseen all possible interpretations? Was he able to arrange the sheet so, that such interpretations he would not agree to could be excluded?
Beethoven's predictions about our interpretation have to be, by definition, inconsequential. You'd have to be able to go back and read his mind...
secondo me: No, because it is not meant in regard of technical predictions like weather forecast but of the creation of an artwork which resists or which is resilient against some interpretations. If you decide to place the notes of the 'Eroica'-Symphony on your desk you should not try to direct another piece of music. Your decisions will get more and more determined (never fully!) while you read and study 'Eroica'. These determinations are planned by the composer - since a classical symphony is NO Jazz!
Let's see!
If there would be no more objections and only consent - would this not get annoying?
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I'm pretty sure Nature wil be able to throw a bit of quantic chaos into every situation. I don't expect us to fully agree. I'm only pointing at the definitions.
Couldn't find the 3rd, in short notice. Take the 9th.
https://youtube.com/shorts/A5r3WLD8EFU?si=D1urrDIBKgMeo-nm
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So I can stop argueing since you by yourself showed me how the work is being changed by some kind of interpretation.
;-))
The question if Beethoven would agree is not answerable for me, but if we return to Beethoven's text and to the very opening, than the non-musical but conceptual interpretation question arises: Is this the introduction of the orchestre as if the musicians were tuning instruments? The answer to the question will lead you to conducting in this or in that way.
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As I said... We are both arguing about different definitions. I will clarify them in my next letter.
What is that?
One eighth of a byte of chaos?
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Quantic Mechanics Chaos. Entropy. We seem to always stumble on definitions. Quantic is not a measure of the size of the chaos... You know what they say about the flap of the butterfly's wings.
Oops. I was just kidding on the "bit".
...belongs to Chaos Theory and not to Quantum Mechanics, I think?
An in particular to fragile systems far from balance.
It causes a local violation of the second law of ...
...the municipal ordinance.
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I think it all comes under Thermodinamics, yes. We did the whole mathematics of it and then the spin equations and stuff... It's a whole package. And chaos is just a mathematical allucination. The point is: a cat is involved and there will be chaos. Maybe the cat is responsable for that.
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The cat is innocent.
It's the phiole which phiolates the rules.
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