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RE: Hardfork 21 is HAPPENING. What will change?
No the cold hard reality is that new people will loose interest before they even know how it all works. What they should have done is make post with higher value on it reduce the gain. And those with lower votes gain more. That is logic. Now they are kissing up to high sp people.
We can't know this until we've seen how things play out. But I agree that it is a fair concern that smaller users, communities, and comments in general may suffer.
However, stakeholders can choose to avoid this if they want. We for instance build our curation system on @steempress to add support behind a large number of curation projects. So that smaller users who write original content and get engagement from others can quite easily reach 20 Steem in total post rewards.
Speaking for Steem in general, a lot rests on the assumption that a significant amount of the stake currently delegated to bid bots will go back towards manual curation, as well as downvotes returning rewards from vote farmers to proper users.
Like you said before nearly no one earns 20$ on their posts at the moment. The only people that do are those with either a big pocket or a big following. They will be earning more. But to be frank it is not those people that need to stay around to make a "SOCIAL" network. It are the small people that make or break a big system like steem. We have seen a decline in activity for months now. Because the small people don't interact anymore. Everyone is scrounging to get ever last bit of steem. And what do the devs do? Make shure the small people earn even less while the big whales earn more .... ?
@zoef, thanks God there's someone that says that the king is naked. I am curious to see the curation level when what will remain is just a bunch of whales'posts on whose quality and intrinsic interest allow me to doubt. At this point, mass adoption is a utopia. Surely this is going create another disincentive for content creators: why should they write quality posts when their time and effort is worth nothing? Why someone new should feel curious and attracted by Steemit? Probably, this is just not the place where to find interesting contents (interesting per se, aka something that anyone steemian or not would come and read). So what place is this? Let's stop being delusional high there: time is passing and scaling/broad adoption is not happening.
Well if they would stop helping wales and focus on the bottom tier users. The system would have a chance. But instead they are creating a utopia for the big wales to earn even more. And all that under a pretense that they want to block the bidding bots. Yeah right. The bidding bots are all controlled by those same whales .... hypocracy.
I am personaly pulling out every last dime i have in steam and moving the cash to other coins. I no longer believe the devs have any (if all) interest in getting it to work.
What I can say is that this coin should be evalued with the same metrics of others, adopting an objective/external pov.
This is not possible, as this coin is beeing valued by it's users. And to be frank alot of people are leaving. The only once staying are those that are proffiting. Lets be frank why would anyone stay after they see the big holders claiming everything? And when new rules get put into place they are meand to let those big players even earn more?
I just meant that this is an investment like others, and from this perspective not a very good one. Obviously, being euphemistic. This metrics are not only possible but also necessary if we give value to our time and money and the result is: find alternatives. In my community, we will keep going just out of a passion for writing but we're surely open to changes. Good luck with your projects!
The break even mentioned in the post is 20 STEEM, not $20. (It is also not a hard barrier; at 15 STEEM or 10 STEEM, or 30 for that matter, the difference is still pretty small).
20 STEEM = $3.60 currently.
The diffrence is that now the average post gets around 0.2$ in upvotes. I wonder how this wil make a diffrence in the upvote bots? Anyone with money will just buy a upvote of atleast 7$ and the big dudes problem is no more.
The small once however will not be able to.
So in essence this is no solution to the problem. The only thing this achieves is making shure small plankton has no way of building up towards the goal of 3.6$ upvotes.
@fredrikaa I think this upgrade is based on wishes how we all want it to be, but it's also based on 0% reality. You who were working on upgrade, should have known better by now
Im sorry, but I had very little say in the changes to the curation system. I fear this can negatively affect smaller users and communities as well as engagement due to comments being less attractive to hand out smaller votes to.
I hope this works out, I really do. But I am concerned. I can understand what they're trying to do with this 20 STEEM thing, but I think 20 STEEM was just too high. I could see it at 5 STEEM, but 20 STEEM is quite difficult to achieve organically. I see the bar as far too high to work.
Why would they want to choose to avoid this if they didn't want to choose to avoid this so far?
Ah! that's the KEY question here. If they choooose to avoid 'this' if they want!! eh?
C'mon @fredrikaa. Please, start reading another kind of stuff. :)
Well, the whole point of the fork is to try to align incentives better for content cautious curation instead of the system we have now where holders seem to earn more STEEM by voting whoever wants to pay the most for a vote with no real risk of being downvoted. That could change.
Yep, that's the actual conundrum. "Cautious Curation" nonetheless, we are talking of 'Humans' here right? };)
Hopefully, although at times I wonder😅
Haha yeah HOPEFULLY!
Btw, did you already read the post in the link I shared with you above?