RE: FaceBook removes all doubt: Vaccines are dangerous!
Your inability to grasp the meaning of the charts remains apparent.
"...what's really bothering you is the fact that the government mandates vaccines."
Well, yeah, that bothers me. It's an existential threat. I have complete and full responsibility to defend my life and property, among other things, and when some powerful gang of psychopaths claims the right to inject whatever they want into my body, I will defend my life against that claim.
Our bodies have evolved to exposure to various things via our digestive systems and through breathing. Injection bypass all that and have far more dire affects on us because of bypassing the mechanisms our bodies have developed to prevent harmful inputs from harming us.
I am not obsessed with aluminum, although I'm also not gonna advocate drinking from aluminum, nor drinking beer and soda. I strongly favor gardening. These are not the actual topic we undertook discussing, so your segue is facile.
The charts reveal that improved medical treatment and basic hygiene did almost all of the heavy lifting regarding control of the relevant diseases. I've argued with people like you before, and there's no point, because even if you eventually run out of sidestepping, and the other tricks deployed to prevent acknowledging fact and say the words, it won't mean a damn thing, and you'll stick by your empty guns anyway.
Be well.
No, you argued that increased hygiene did all the heavy lifting, as medical treatment would have involved vaccines and medicines that were developed after the microscope that convinced people that germs were a "real" thing combined with the fact they could now offer medicines and vaccines that kept the germs at bay. Hygiene was the natural course of action hundreds of years before the invent of the microscope, medicines and vaccines, no amount of natural immunity would have kept many people from dying prior to that.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2652987/
Clearly I am not talking about vaccines, and am talking about medications otherwise under the unbrella term 'improved medical treatment'. And, amongst the primary mechanisms was indeed hygiene. Prior to the Civil War, doctors didn't wash their hands between patients much.
This is centuries after the invention of the microscope by Leeuwvanhoek in the 17th Century.
Of course you didn't read the link I gave you. It's only a hypothetical guess on your part that doctors didn't wash their hands in between patience, the evidence in the link suggest otherwise, hygiene was always viewed as a defense mechanism, basically the only one they had back in those times. Along with your analogy of not vaccines just talking about medication....the link discusses that also, the voo-doo remedies, the snake oil salesmen type jive....actually medicine and vaccines proven to work didn't occur until the identification and isolation of the germs causing them, which goes back to my comment that this is how we know that chart can be disproved....as the chart indicates dates that there was no scientific way to identify the exact source why a lot of people died back then. You can argue for/against vaccines all day long, that isn't the issue in this chart debates credibility, the issue is there was no scientific way this chart can be held to be true or accurate during certain time frames on it.