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RE: You Can't Be A Vegetarian

in #health7 years ago

As a certified personal trainer I can shed my opinion on this. It is absolutely correct, while we certainly do not need to overeat meat it is pretty essential. I`ve had "vegan" clients and they were so malnourished in different aspects that it was obsene. Especially for males animal fat/egg yolks is so essential it is laughable. Without testosterone you are nothing and let me tell you, the building blocks to secrete it are not lettuce and fucking apples. Great article!

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I'll just quote what I see as the most interesting part of the article.

Vegetarians think that just because they take out the middle man (cow) it makes them different. It doesn't.

In other words, the fact that vegetarians do stuff differently than other makes them like others. It doesn't make them different. In fact, the more people are doing things differently, the more alike they are.

I love it.

Amazing i am vegetarian and i am more powerful than most of the man eating meat around me.

i practice fitness for the last 17 years, when i switched to vegetarian i only lost about 10% power overall.

If you make effort to think more deeply about what you need to eat to compensate meat then it's allright.

Have you read the book eat and run? he is vegan could you run as he does?
He became vegan during his career and still gain in performance over the years

http://www.scottjurek.com/eat-run/#about-er-section

If you want to know more about health I strongly recommend you to watch the documentary 'What the health'. It's a good introduction in why people choose to eat less animal proteins. In that documentary Scott Jurek is also being interview. Maybe you will find a way to get your 10% power back.

http://www.whatthehealthfilm.com/

is a great one. I just watched it 2 days ago. It did open my eyes to many things.

Meatheads know nothing about hemp seed and flax, smh.

Well I was getting sicker and sicker so there you have it.

Your comment doesn't tell me much. I have no idea what you think a vegan diet is and wat you did or didn't do. Neither of us really know the full truth but what I do know is that living off nutella is not a healthy choice.

This is just too simplistic. Eating a vegan diet really doesn't automatically = malnourishment any more than driving a car means you'll die in a car accident. Any person who is not eating a properly balanced diet is going to eventually feel like shit because of that? Whilst that is possible if a person decides to go vegan and just achieves that by cutting out whole food groups (usually proteins and fats) without replacing them with anything. This is actually common enough especially if the motivation is really weight loss rather than a longer term lifestyle change. But the vegan diet isn't an issue if it is balanced, the average silverback gorilla is hardly lacking in testosterone despite almost entirely plant based diet is it? And there is a huge list of elite athletes who eat this way. If you just make sure you get the balance of good fats, proteins, carbohydrates and nutrients for your lifestyle and activity levels right you'll be fine. If you do that and choose plants then you get to be even more than fine - you'll be helping avoid environmental disaster, missing out on all those nasty diseases that vegans just don't get and becoming a more compassionate being.

Vegan men tended to have significantly higher testosterone levels than both vegetarians and meateaters (see graph here), which can be a risk factor for prostate cancer, the reason plant-based diets appear to reverse the progression of prostate cancer may be due to how low their IGF-1 drops (see Cancer Reversal Through Diet?).

https://nutritionfacts.org/2013/02/12/less-cancer-in-vegan-men-despite-more-testosterone/

I don't agree at all !!!

Have you heard of Frank Medrano?

He is generally a bodybuilder and his power comes from plants because he is a full vegan.

He wasn't born like this, but when he became the most highlighted was the tide of energy - a "real high energy level" - and a faster recovery of power.

He calls these advantages "super prosperity"

Totally agreed 😊

Thank you man.

Tell me about it. There is plenty of evidence that we are omnivores. Most people are just in denial. Check this amount of research out.

It's a complex question. "Omnivore" is a label, and does it mean that we need meat otherwise we die? Or does it mean we as humans ate meat in the past? If it is the former then the answer is no. We don't need meat to survive. If it is the latter, the fact that we as humans ate meat in the past does not tell us anything about whether we need it now.

I don't blame you for thinking you must eat meat. Most people are addicted to it, and when you are addicted to something you will rationalize your addiction.

There is a lot of money made by the meat and dairy industry who are keen on making people eat as much of their product as possible, so there is considerable propaganda. Sure there is vegan propaganda, but this propaganda is driven by compassion rather than profit.

I don't think the world will go vegan, but my attempt is like lighting a candle rather than complaining about the darkness.

This is why I am an antinatalist. When I see people rationalizing their bad habits, I realize that there is something innate in humanity that drives him to oppress others and seek rationalizations to justify it. Everyone does it: slave owners, Nazis, dictators, and meat eaters.

I will continue to be vegan, but I am starting to think that the problem is not humans eating meat. Rather, the root of the problem is with humanity itself, and the only solution then is antinatalism. Boycott humanity and never breed, and encourage others to do the same.

this is the same as saying you are addicted to ...food..or oxygen.

as for antinatalism...indeed...the breeding meme has gone too far.

I don't think meat is essential. There are lots of products which can replace it, like fish. But why should one eat fish but no meat.... Being a vegan is almost impossible indeed. If you want to have more testosterone take a look at black maca. There is literally no need to eat meat, but it tastes so good that I won't stop eating it :p

There is literally no need to rape women, but it feels so good that I won't stop raping them :p

Being a vegan isn't about not ever using products that exploited animals and hurt them, but rather minimizing it as much as possible.
You can easily control what you eat in modern society. You can't control what they use to create tires.

In the same way that 4 legged mammals have greater moral value than insects, worms, or rodents in your moral sphere, so do human women have greater moral value than 4 legged mammals in most folks moral sphere's.

That's because typically a 4legged animal is more developed and capable of processing what's going on than an insect or worm, at least as far as we can understand.
I'd kill 100 rats to save a cute babies life, but that doesn't make it right, but that's what I'd do.
However to kill 100 rats, or in the case of corpse-munchers, kill 50-100 animals a year simply because they want a momentary sensation of flesh and the knowledge that it's "real meat" is not just immoral, but inexcusable. It's senseless. It's not to save another more valuable (subjective) organism, no, it's just depravity.

Hopefully you would kill 100 rats whether the baby was cute or not.

ever heard about Carl Lewis ?? vegan olympic sprinter
and is quote :
"I've found that a person does not need protein from meat to be a successful athlete. In fact, my best year of track competition was the first year I ate a vegan diet. Moreover, by continuing to eat a vegan diet, my weight is under control, I like the way I look. (I know that sounds vain, but all of us want to like the way we look.) I enjoy eating more, and I feel great."

Carl Lewis was up to his eyeballs in drugs like most athletes and used the vegan story as a cover up

I would argue that calorie count is the most important factor. The difference between plant and animal food sources is secondary.

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