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RE: ".....you're a cock-sucking Justin Sun @stephenkendal lol" ...by @carloserp-2000
Until someone can come up with a Contractual Agreement that would stand scrutiny in a Court
This is why people are mad at you.
You don't believe Steem has it's own sovereignty.
You think we need PERMISSION from the government of another country.
Steem is the country.
It doesn't work any other way and it's the entire point of crypto.
When your network is borderless you will always break the law somewhere.
I am talking about the Ownership of the "Ninja Mined" #Steem Stake that was acquired by Justin at the time of the Acquisition.
As far as I am concerned this #Steem was 100% Ned's to do with whatever he chose to do and he chose to sell it to Justin.
Whoever thought that it was a good thing to freeze this #Steem and in effectively take it off Justin without any cast iron proof that Justin had no Rightful Ownership to the #Steem made a big mistake.
This should never have been done and despite raising my concerns repeatedly that this should be reversed and an apology made to both Justin and Ned, I was told to **** off and stay out of it.
As I have repeatedly said in the past, I will stand by with what I have said from day one.
Until someone can come up with a Contractual Agreement that would stand scrutiny in a Court that the "Ninja Mined" #Steem Stake was not Ned's to sell, then I go back to the time of the initial Soft Fork and say everything that has been created from that point in time and the Rightful Ownership of all Assets owned is in question.
This is all I have to say on this matter and I wish everyone involved in those Projects that have decided to take a different path all the success.
Stephen
And what I'm telling you is that it did stand scrutiny in 'Court'.
The court are the witnesses themselves.
This is consensus. This is how it works.
It's fine that you don't understand because you're so brainwashed by previous experience.
You think the authority has to come from your previous masters.
This is false.
I want to ask if you understand now, but I know you don't, and maybe you never will.
But I get the feeling that maybe 10 years down the line when physical crypto communities/governments start materializing... maybe then you'll understand that the court exists within the community, and not some random government.
Until then, keep propagating this weird nonsensical argument that we for some reason have to get permission from another government to create the rules of our own government.
Does a bank ask for "cast iron proof" when freezing accounts?
No, they have anti-money laundering laws in place and will freeze accounts for hundreds of different reasons automatically and sort out the problem later. This is exactly what we tried to do and Sun defied community consensus and attacked our government with 3 centralized exchanges. They attacked us with the stake owned by investors who didn't want to perform that action. If you can't understand why that's 1000 times worse than what we did I don't know what to tell you.
The only mistake made in this situation was Justin doubling down with the exchange attack and the constant escalation. If he had simply allowed his accounts to be frozen this situation would have been resolved already and there would have been no fork.
Truth be told, I'm absolutely ECSTATIC about how this all turned out. JSun gave us the perfect excuse to neutralize the ninjamine completely rather than forcing us to deal with it constantly hanging over our heads. The value that was created in the fork was massive and now everyone is richer for it.
I agree with this. If by some miracle, the stolen Steem gets returned to their rightful owners, then nobody will have lost anything.
ETA: except for opportunity cost.
Why should be the ninja stake the problem of JS, NED should have solved this problem earlier with community. But anyway I don´t find any sense in it because it was his company, his stake and so he must be free to do with it what he likes to, this is not a prerogative of the community but of the owner ;)
You can not claim rights for you that you´re not willing to give to others.