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RE: Guns, Control, and Liberty

in #guns5 years ago (edited)

Thanks for the response. My last comment on this: The US government is nothing but a collection of people like you and I or someone that someone knows that we hire and fire at points to represent us collectively. It will never be perfect but is the way we agreed to run our community. To reject its authority is simply a rejection of the community and its laws. To reject it is also anyone's God given right. So anyone can walk away from that community and agreement. Why live in a community and with a government you don't agree with? Anyone can do the extent of liberty we want the right way and not the lazy way, like this guy below. I would do this if and when my kids leave home and I want to live with no more rules.
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Same for consent in a shared communities. My pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness should not infringe on yours and vice-versa. But it can and so we find reasonable rules to draw the boundaries. Those that have committed violent crimes or have medically diagnosed issues that prevent them from having guns are not allowed to by statute. I cannot blast my music loud at 1000 decibels at 2am while your children are sleeping because it makes me happy, because then I clearly infringe on your right to be happy. So the neighborhood I live in made that rule. If I don't like it, I have the liberty to move elsewhere. But some will always want to be part of a community but not its rules.

As far as "deal with our specific neighbor", what would that mean? A wild west? So I should find one to go live in if that's what I wanted. And would dealing with that neighbor be before or after said neighbor, or any individual for that matter, has completely foreclosed on your ability to be happy forever after they God-forbid sent your children back to their maker? There won't be any remedy or recourse you or anyone would have that could reverse or cure that. I believe that's why there's the need for the rules; even if some will keep breaking or trying to break it.

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You conflate government and society. There is no representation. There is no "we" and no agreement in politics. Democracy is a myth used by the political class to justify their predatory behavior. Government monopolies guarantee waste and abuse. The premise of modern theories of government based on popular elections have no more inherent legitimacy than does the Divine Right of Kings.

I cannot rightly claim the authoritynto govern my neighbor. I cannot tax his property or exchanges. I cannot demand that he apply for my license before exercising his rights. All of these are obvious. How can I delegate to some third party a right I do not have?

I recommend this essay to further explore this line of thought: A Letter to Grover Cleveland, by Lysander Spooner

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