for one: the certificate generation throws a lot of people off. even jringo couldn't change his nickname for like 2 months. lol

for two: i prefer the sound quality in Mumble, but there are simply more people coming to the Discord hangouts. even excluding sock puppets. ;)

for three: Discord IS more system exhaustive. i've proposed a bridge between the two, and @tomasbrod even accomplished it for one classroom, and the result was basically piping in a bunch of abuse from the Mumble. that shit can't happen again. you know who you are.

the medium is NOT the message. it's about getting our message to more people at once. let's all get over our hangups, and figure out how to make this work for everybody that isn't the regulars/hosts. <3