@neuralminer , I went with your advise there and was able to rejoin , of course I just used a different domain for email and could have done that long ago , if you are an admin and can manipulate the user list my first attempt with my usual domain and user jamezz was a screw up thanks to last-pass and could be deleted. It wont let me reset the password, it lets me get to the page but rejects everything I attempt to set.So I gave up , it did not accept the pw I set on signup to login after I verified email. It was also what I had used before that was apparently removed. Anyways just trying to keep the database clean and since I have 2 users.. anyways... thank you if possible , or thank you if not.