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RE: Greymass - Crowdfunding campaign details

in #greymass8 years ago

Just sent SBD15 to @greymass, really looking forward to this project. I know it's small, but I'm only here for 10 days and it's kinda hard to take off on a such a short time window.

But that's one of the reasons I'm funding your project: I feel the need of a more flexible way of presenting content and getting rewards directly. I have more than 8 years experience blogging, having posts with 500k shares under the belt. Some of the posts I wrote 5 years ago still get a solid 70-90 visitors each day, and that would make 2-3.000 / month. Under the current Steemit conditions, those users are opaqued, they don't matter. Hope your project will find solutions to that.

Best of luck!

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Thank you @dragosroua! You're the first one and we truly appreciate it.

I am hoping with this model of website it'll help solve some of the issues you've run into the past. There are a few things to keep in mind though when it comes to the steem blockchain, the primary one being that payouts stop after 30 days on a piece of content.

That's not to say it can't change somewhere down the road - there's actually an open github issue right now discussing ways to extend the lifetime payouts of content. But currently anything older than 30 days still won't generate steem based revenue, only traditional forms of revenue.

Beyond that, there's a few other issues with engaging readers into having a steem account and voting, but all things that can be addressed.

Thanks again and as we're moving along we'd love to hear any thoughts you may have!

I've read that github issue and it looks like something that might be taken into account. I wasn't even aware that posts are hosted in the blockchain. It makes much more sense to host a reference - with a little bit of metadata, like timestamp and revision numbers for different edits - and the actual content to be hosted somewhere else, maybe wrapped in a versioning system like git. I don't even know if this is possible, I'm just throwing out some ideas on the table. And that's for the technical part.

The business modeling part might take into account different levels of value for posts, based on a combination of factors. Time spent reading it (I know it can be done) + date of publication + interactions (voting / commenting / sharing). This system can be tweaked in such a way that older posts can still get some cash, based on the actual attention they get, even if they're written 5 years ago.

yo yo is reprint still useable or would it take a lot of updating. Seems pretty cool?

Would take a decent amount of updating I think, it's been a long while since there's been any development for it.

C'est la vie. Anything youd recommend if someone wanted to try to make their own like network based off steem? Perhaps just build off Steemit/Busy? No integrations with Django or Drupal yet, if ever?

That's sort of what I'm doing with chainbb.com - building a forum interface/network on top of the Steem blockchain.

Right now it pretty much takes writing everything except the RPC libraries from scratch. There aren't many total integrations at this point with common open source web platforms. I think there's a wordpress plugin, but other than that, everything else still needs to be done.

You have an excellent point. If you wrote that example up in a separate post to bring attention to the problem, it might cause some changes.

The recent changes are treating 30 day old posts like old tweets, not as an asset that keeps earning. Why leave anything here, especially if you cannot get replies or tips, or have even basic controls like editing and deleting your posts and comments. All these features worked recently and have simply been disabled by the steemit.com website so they can keep your content for SEO. It's just chasing people away.

An example like yours describing the monetary cost of removing these features could get it changed back.

Awesome! Thanks for writing it up, that explains it very well. I hope it makes an impact.
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