IMO: GOLOS became a Digital Fascist state over-run by Nazis from the weird part of the Internet!
I am not throwing these words idle around, I dived down into the dictionary to make sure I was phrasing the headline correctly analyzing the Russian Twin Brother of STEEM, namely GOLOS.
Basically nothing has happened in GOLOS since they forked off STEEM to create their own russian blockchain... in fact, there are more russians joining STEEM then GOLOS for one simple fact - GOLOS is run by a group of fascists that systematically do the following:
- A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
Or in other words - they use their technical accounts all over the platform to upvote/circlejerk themselves and flag everyone else who is not a member of the Russian National Click/Part of the Circlejerk-club of Russian Nazis. Imagine if the Steemit account went rough?
- A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Or in other words - "Golos INC." if we can call them that, believes they are the owners and the rulers of the GOLOS blockchain, and investors/witnesses are only peasants of no value.
- Oppressive, dictatorial control.
Or in other words - "Golos INC." Through straw men/women/sockpuppet accounts threatens bloggers, businesses, investors to "stand in line" and "Do what they tell you to do".
Shady dealings behind the scenes is what is going on.
The result of all this is the following:
- All developers quit the GOLOS project
- GOLOS still is struggling with the n^2 reward curve
- War & Drama is more cunning & destructive than anything I have ever seen before.
So my conclusion after being an insider in both GOLOS & STEEM is that GOLOS is not Business-friendly and the culture does not offer investors any bright future. Their leadership is incompetent at best and lacking at worst, and did I mention they have no developers and an outdated fork?
Steem on the other hand has become so stabile, extremely business, user and investor-friendly. The failed GOLOS project could humble themselves and do something positive with the remnant of 50 circlejerkers that are still around in there, but I wont support it anymore. I have seen the russian masses and what they do, how they do it and why they fail. I don't think I will do business with russians in the future unless they have proven themselves worthy of such a thing by a track record of success and kept promises.
@inertia has gathered plenty of data from our experiment over there, looking forward to that post. In the meanwhile, Im licking some sun, enjoying life and two scoops of ice cream.
Hello! I am a member of the Golos.io @golos team and I want to respond based upon the facts.
Personally, I do not see anything unusual in that someone made an anti-buster bot (which forced you to write this post) in order to make Golos.io site more fair.
What you have created is a black market for vote buying and selling, whereas Booster is transparent, open source and available for everyone. Don't glorify yourselves, and don't invent stories as you have any clue about what I do, what I have observed and what my intentions are.
You guys turned Fascist Nazis on the community, failed at everything - only thing you are good at is lying to weak people.
Context: You are selling votes behind the scenes to your so called "business partners" using GolosPower you have got for free after you scammed investors for 600 Bitcoins in the ICO.
And you are dictating who gets to use what, when and why. Excluding legit investors from thriving in open space. Don't you see further than the tip of your own nose @marina, @vitaly-ivov, @serejandmyself, @elena-singer, @freebornsociety, @insider, @nickshtefan, @nemo1369 and the rest of the corrupt @golos "team"?
Golos.io @golos initially positioned itself as a platform for communities and quality content.
Interest groups began to be actively formed on the site closer to summer, with the added initiative of community support from ordinary members of the Golos.io — natasha, phoenix, as described at the Golos Fest in July (@arcange, @roelandp — witnesses). Everything done within the framework of the Vox-Populi was absolutely transparent for those who speak Russian. All posts issued through the community were checked for uniqueness of content and deservedly gained the votes of users.
In the case of the booster, which you transferred from Steemit, the uniqueness of the supported content and its' quality is irrelevant. The interests of the communities are irrelevant because cash is king.
As soon as the booster started working at full strength (2017-11), an active outflow of active authors (blue line) from the platform began (largely due to the fact that it was turning into a garbage dump of shovels).
Почему только сообщества аффилированные с GolosFund получали централизованную поддержку за качественный контент? Что мешало организовать глобальную поддержку авторов через группы кураторов, а не через карманные сообщества, которые выплачивают за поддержку деньги - 20% от Силы Голоса?
Что мешало всё это сделать без откатов, а просто за счет групп тематических кураторов?
Вы первые создали систему денежных откатов на Голосе и стали пилить 30% пула через карманные сообщества. Сообщество Голоса ответило тем же, и теперь вы говорите про деньги и качественный контент?
Why only communities affiliated with GolosFund received central support for quality content? What prevented the organization of global sponsorship support through groups of curators, and not through pocket communities that pay money for support - 20% of the GOLOS POWER?
What prevented all this done without kickbacks, but simply at the expense of groups of thematic curators?
You were the first to create a system of cash kickbacks on the GOLOS and began to cut 30% of the pool through pocket communities. The Voice community answered the same, and now you are talking about money and quality content?
Бустер был ответом на квадратичные выплаты, которые вы до сих пор не убрали, чтобы контролировать распил пула.
После того как вы начали мочить флагами инвесторов вместо того, чтобы ввести линейную кривую выплат уйдут не только авторы, но и инвесторы.
К тому же метание флагами создает нездоровую атмосферу, вовсе не дружелюбную.
В общем я впервые вижу, когда команда откровенно гробит перспективный проект, аналогов в Рунете у которого еще нет.
The booster was the answer to the quadratic repayments, which you still have not cleared to control the cut of the pool.
After you began to wet the flags of investors, instead of introducing a linear payment curve, not only the authors, but also investors will leave.
In addition, throwing flags creates an unhealthy atmosphere, not at all friendly.
In general, I see for the first time when the team frankly destroys a promising project, which has no analogs in RuNet.
The curve is not the main trouble. The trouble is garbage content promoted by boosters without any revision and quality assurance. Also, big number of different boosters which drives the head crazy. Even if one legit author with quality post decides to legally promote his/her post, he can't do it easily.
Author needs to perform deep research on which "Promotion Service Provider" to use. Most providers requires to input very big investments to overcome the swarm of shit-posters with big cash.
Low quality content boosters make so huge noise! Newbie can't afford to join these gamblings. So, they just become unseen and hungry for readers.
No readers, no reason to post a quality.
This is a issue in steemit too... A lot of crappers do trash content and do high bids, communities should be active and selective.
1.1. Разработчик из команды ушел
1.2. Команды фактически нет, потому что он работал один.
https://steemit.com/golos/@hipster/nekotorye-sobytiya-po-khodu-pesy
1.1. The developer from the team left
1.2. The team is actually not, because he worked alone.
https://steemit.com/golos/@hipster/nekotorye-sobytiya-po-khodu-pesy
@litrbooh Доброго времени суток. Хочу лишь уточнить, что паника несколько преждевременна.
Строго формально, я еще пока никуда не ушел. До окончания февраля я продолжу числиться в составе команды @goloscore в качестве наставника и технического писателя. Строго говоря, я обучаю людей, претендующих на звание команды, и документирую код.
@nemo1369, от того, что вы передаете свои навыки будущему поколению код не пилится, ХФ не делается, кривая не сглаживается, разработка стоит, делегирования и бенефицианства нет, инвесторы и разработчики не могут монетизироваться.
Если люди теряют деньги, что кого интересуют формальные детали?
Кстати, Михаил, вы обещали ТЗ на исследование кривой показать и озвучить сроки примерные по данной работе.
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from the fact that you pass on your skills to the future generation, the code does not cut, the HF is not done, the curve does not get smoothed out, the development costs, the delegation and the beneficiaries are not, investors and developers can not monetize.
If people lose money, who is interested in formal details?
By the way, Michael, you promised TZ for the study of the curve to show and voice the terms of the sample for this work.
golos.io лагает как негр знает что
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Good day. I just want to clarify that panic is somewhat premature.
Strictly formally, I have not gone anywhere yet. Until the end of February, I will continue to be a member of the @goloscore team as a mentor and technical writer. Strictly speaking, I teach people who claim to be a team and document the code.
If we could get more feedback in #en, that would be nice.
I pretty much stopped posting when my rewards went to pennies.
Far less pennies now, first saw 0.001 $ as a kind of payment for the vote
So this sounds like Clash Of Clans between Interstellar families originating from the same bloodline. We need Superman!
hahaha BRILLIANT @introvertspeaks
So much hatred words in one post, and no numbers and usernames at all.
Let's compare two most influential authorities on Steem and on Golos:
@steemit: (71,439,457.115 + 1,434.590) / 262,525,279.696 = 27,21% of economy
@cyberfund: (6,936,227.579 + 1,673,266.167) / 131,427,278.594 = 6,55% of economy
This mathematically proves that Steem has much more centralization of authority than Golos.
The active userbase of Steem is around 42000, while on Golos it's around 6000 (1/7 of Steem), which I believe is more that "50 circlejerkers".
The Golos capitalization is continuously growing so it's really hard to treat Golos as a "failed" project.
Also could you provide the usernames of those developers? I only heard about Golos doubled the size of the team over the last year.
Self voting and large steem power disparities or golos power disparities can be obfuscated with multiple accounts per user. It could be like 80% owned by Dan Larimer. How would we know? I don't think that's the case. It's only to illustrate the point.
There is quite a bit of flagging to reduce rewards and retaliations that go on on this chain.
Dived in a dictionary... good hobby!
Interesting screenshots from discord,
judge for yourself
I think you may have dove into the shallow end my friend, for it seems you have phrased nothing correctly and your analysis is baseless.
“Russian Nazis”
The Soviets and Nazis had completely conflicting sociopolitical ideologies.
"Golos INC. if we can call them that, believes they are the owners and the rulers of the GOLOS blockchain, and investors/witnesses are only peasants of no value.”
Yes, you can call them that if you wish. You have no direct quote to perpetuate this subjective statement.
I have already read someone’s response to these three following points, which are lacking any factual basis, so I will not reiterate what they said because it was spot on. @overmorgen
I am sorry you have come to such an inaccurate conclusion based in non rational thought. Everything that GOLOS and STEEM does advocates a business-friendly culture and all of their investors can speak to this. I still don’t understand how you have come to the conclusion they have no developers and an outdated fork…this is simply just not true. Also, poor choice of nomenclature when referencing members of the team and community; this really fails to promote an intelligent dialogue.
“I have seen the russian masses and what they do, how they do it and why they fail.”
I had to laugh out loud at this one. If you have recently gone off any psychiatric medications that you shouldn’t have, this might explain the origin of what you originally wrote.
You showed yourself as an asshole from the moment when you could not find a common language with Cyberfond (before launching the booster). If you ran the booster to show how bad the distribution function of rewards - we already know about it. And I, as a witness at Golos, stand for smoothing the curve. But I want to say something else - because of all the delirium and hatred that you personally brought to Golos, the community suffered. But believe me, we will survive this small crisis.
And enough of this nonsense about the fascists. And your "f**k, f**k, f**k, f**k you all")) This is ridiculous.
Golos certainly awaits a great future, regardless of whether you will harm the project or not.
It's not to prove the reward curve is bad. Clearly it's because he can profit from destroying everybody elses stake while lining his own pockets. Don't bend to the will of somebody forcing his way through with destruction. The curve is not the answer. Vote negation is.
Why do you think that fyrstikken needs to "find a common language with CF" and not CF is to find the common language with investors?
It's exactly russian-style dictatorship.
It depends on the chronology, sentiments of business communication and not on nationality.
The sentence below could be read (in text form) in few ways:
If Cyberfund was the initiator of investment from @fyrstikken, then yes... Cyberfund's interest is to create good offer and find consensus with investor. If fyrstikken just decided make some money on the project without caring about community and regular users, then this could lead to some resistance from project authorities.
I just want to say, don't use so strong idioms like: "exactly russian-style dictatorship".
In a quarrel both sides are guilty, usually...
PS: I personally don't mind against "Promotion Services". But they should work as intended - promote quality content and not just gain money from garbage.
As an asshole he showed himself just for "judina" since he didn't upvote her naked body. The reason for that sentence was exactly that (depending on chronology) :)))
We could see different behavior styles of @frystikken at Golos and all of them are logical. Including interests of all the involved parties. Booster raised Golos and GBG 5x during two months.
I do not consider this system to be good forever but at the moment it was very good decision.
OK Got your point...
...but eventually these boosters ruined whole point of Golos as it positioned itself: quality content platform.
Every two new weeks something appears at Golos that "ruines whole point of Golos" :)
What I do like about that platform is this inventive initiative community and experiments.
I see similar "experiments" outside of my house everyday. A lot of destruction and a bit of creation. No need to have Golos for such experiments... IMHO
Fortunately, I do not live in Russia, that's why I need golos for this kind of entertainment )))
But I would like to underline that according to people's opinion better times have already gone, and any change is not desirable. Still we can observe world is developing for the better.
Dayyyyym @yudina-cat. I like your style
I don’t write frequently on steemit, but when I see someone trying to score on lies and deceit it really makes me want to answer.
I will not go back over a year ago and look up for some similar quotes you have used to diss the steemit team, mainly because all the fudd was spread behind the scenes, on the show you had run, before discord... Same goes for the scandal with @heiditravels @dollarvigilante and the list goes on...
This is to show the kind of a person you are. From day one all you have been doing is bringing around fud, swearing, shouting, dissing women in a very provocative (I am really surprised none of them have taken this to court yet) way and so on.
As for Golos:
BR
PS - Please try and refrain from racist comments (as such that you have made in your post) as we will have to take this further on to courts using information that has been written down by yourself and has been seen by everyone
Just to be precise with wording...
So this principle is not bound to to Germany. Neo-nazi's are spread around the world, if I'm not wrong.
One shouldn't confuse Nazism and Fascism.
As I understand, Nazism means defending the national interests (support), doing some efforts to make nation better (this could be done in bad and good ways, though).
Fascism means dictatorship and extermination of any opposing minds. On genetic and cultural levels this make nation weaker, but gains the power and influence of dictator.
When dictator voluntarily makes nation weaker in some aspects by Fascism, he needs to suppress other nations. Otherwise its nation will quickly become non-competitive. This is why Racism goes together with Fascism.
Probably we will gradually move from the Voice to Steemit, as the prospects for the Voice to conduct business with each month are getting worse.
Кстати, приглашаю, коллега - https://golos.io/ru--apvot50-50/@karmoputnik/russian-steemit-zhivyot-i-shiritxsya-live-and-expand-en-ru Трезвомыслящие инициативные люди нужны в адекватной среде) @karmoputnik
Not touched GOLOS and have no regrets about it.
Rather focus my energy on STEEM.
A lot of people switch from GOLOS to Steemit. And I'm including.
Because what I see is not business. It does not seem that the organizers are adults and serious people.
Having such money for so long to deal with hardfork and to allow such serious problems with the nodes ... this mind is incomprehensible. A shame!
I certainly do not give up hope that everything will get better, but it melts every day.