Depends upon where you are. In NYC, it isnt enough, in rural areas of Florida, it is too much.
But a better question is how likely are people in fast food to get $15 an hour and not suffer any layoffs. To start, prices will have to go up to compensate for the extra payroll (you didnt think the owners of these establishments were just going to eat the money) which means sales will fall. If that happens, companies usually start cutting payroll by laying people off.
Or these corporations look to automated processes and just get rid of a portion of the work force.
Surgeons salary cannot be compared with fastfood one, is the comment a joke?! Looks like you are missing many points, logic, you think like a teenager without basic logic and math. Go to school... Learn before you teach
So you are saying someone would less tired after a long day in the fast food restaurant if they were paid more money?
Wasnt your assertion that they were tired from all hard tedious work they do? My point is a surgeon standing over a patient in an ER for 5 hours subject to the same thing. Yet a surgeon who screwed up due to tiredness would be sued and probably terminated by his hopital.
Why are you looking at surgeon comparison for? They earn more, they can take a break for longer, they don t have to work 24/7 to pay for their mother / parent illness/support.
If 15dollars/hour is paid the turnover will be more frequent, as the people will make the money they need to do what they want to do ( pay university courses, build up some savings, deal with a money problem) they change job. How many months did you worked in fastfood?! Do you know they experience burnout ? Oh.. Wait, you didn't considered burnout in your discussion logic. Good luck
I also went to a burger king where they had a touch screen you could order and pay from, it was actually quite wonderful, I didn't have to yell out my order and they knew what to get.
Whenever my husband hears about this, he goes off on an (Italian word based) tangent. Never have you heard so many four-letter words!
But really, what he says is, if they make $15/hour to do this, then what will I have to pay for a $1 burger? Employees get raises like that then he's not going to pay $4 or more for a burger on the go.
The state of the economy is... pathetic. But then again, when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, parents didn't have to hold two or three jobs to survive. Let alone taking the second, or third, job at a fast food place. Those jobs were for us- teenagers, etc.
I am a software developer. It looks like you are missing the point. A robot will not be easily able to keep the hygiene required, not for less than 15dollars/ hour, you are naive to believe so, you don't know how AI works.
Ah okay. I am naive. That is only why most of the largest corporations in the world, all of them, including fast food chains are starting to automate processes.
And I guess I am naive to believe that fast food workers are going to reduce in number and that MCD and others are just going to pay increase wages over time.
They are automating processes because they can, they can afford it, and at the end could mean not 4 billions but 6 in 10 years from now, they are investing in tools for the future but there is the money for 15 dollars per hour, take a look to 2016 net profit for mcdonald.
To start, MCDs doesnt pay the people in the restaurants...that is done by the owners of the franchises...they are the ones who foot the bill...not corporate....that is on their individual P&L statements.
Secondly, the net profit you discussed is owned by wall street. The board decides what to issue in dividend and what to retain for expansion/prudent reserve. Any CEO or board the has a declining net profit (or revenues) doesnt stay employed too long. The only way Wall Street doubles the payroll is if it doubled the earnings.
We have a better chance at getting into Fort Knox than Wall Street answering corporations suddenly paying more because they could afford it. More people were arrested in Occupy Wall Street, a legal demonstration than bankers were arrested for collapsing the worldwide economy through their ponzi MBSs.
See this is a continual problem in the work force today, working at a fast-food restaurant IS NOT considered a "extreme technical" career job to perform. Many of these people who push for the "15," has not had a job that requires WAY MORE RESPONSIBILITY then preparing a meal for complete strangers who come into to the establishment looking for a combo meal, or even the occasional [gas burger] big mac. A 6th grader can do the same job down to a "T"(despite the fact that the kid would probably show signs of goosebumps, until they feel like they've gained enough experience to handle the job with no problems.) And that's the key thing about jobs like this, they are classified as "starting out jobs" which helps to them to build responsibility, integrity, and MOST of all discipline.
These are some of the requirements needed before they pursue MORE RESPONSIBILITY in higher paying job titles / positions. Supervisors, team-Leaders, and Managers TAKE ON MUCH GREATER RESPONSIBILTY ROLES then the employees who prepare food, or the ones stationed at the drive through window.
They don't deal with complaints from customers.
They don't have to keep track of all the shipments of chicken nuggets, or the bill of lading from the purchases made from the mass shipment of product goods that come into the store to keep the operation running smoothly day to day, and they have to make sure it does in order for the workers to get paid their wages every end of the week. Then there's the corporate calls chiming in to see how the progress of business is doing (and I use to work at Burger King, and would often hear the manager get chewed the F out due to under sales or bad customer service because they did reviews on the restaurant's performance in that particular town or city. Then there the discussion of hours or scheduling of workers, and how much does the supervisors and managers get paid. LOL. They're salary based on a fixed income, unless they're up for their review, and yes they do strive hard to get that added bonus throughout the year, because they have to scrape hard for their money WITH TONS OF ADDED STRESS TO BOOT.
And this is stress the worker does not have the honor of facing every single day, all they have to do is prepare the food. [Plus these fast food chains are now motioning more towards automation to cut out the middle man, or the employee who demands for higher wages.]
Not a good strategy to go and aggravate the top heads of a multi-billion dollar industry, because corporate management will not put up with any of the complaining, they'll just scrap the employee and hire in another who'll do the job without any questions asked. Like so..
it's good, we can complain and ask for another free one
Just a sheep around
I bet a robot could do that already without any more advancements in AI.
Do you have a spare idea what it means for an human work in a fast food 8-10 hours? And did you the job ?!
Yes I have done it.
How did you feel at the end of the workday?!
What does that have to do with anything? So if the work is hard, that is an excuse for not doing your job well.
How do you think surgeons feel after 4 or 5 hours straight of surgery? Does that give them leeway to screw up?
Do you think 15 dollars/ hour is too much for 1 person working in fastfood?
Depends upon where you are. In NYC, it isnt enough, in rural areas of Florida, it is too much.
But a better question is how likely are people in fast food to get $15 an hour and not suffer any layoffs. To start, prices will have to go up to compensate for the extra payroll (you didnt think the owners of these establishments were just going to eat the money) which means sales will fall. If that happens, companies usually start cutting payroll by laying people off.
Or these corporations look to automated processes and just get rid of a portion of the work force.
Are you sure prices will go up?! It looks like you didnt considered the current net profit per year, did you? What sum?
Surgeons salary cannot be compared with fastfood one, is the comment a joke?! Looks like you are missing many points, logic, you think like a teenager without basic logic and math. Go to school... Learn before you teach
So you are saying someone would less tired after a long day in the fast food restaurant if they were paid more money?
Wasnt your assertion that they were tired from all hard tedious work they do? My point is a surgeon standing over a patient in an ER for 5 hours subject to the same thing. Yet a surgeon who screwed up due to tiredness would be sued and probably terminated by his hopital.
Why are you looking at surgeon comparison for? They earn more, they can take a break for longer, they don t have to work 24/7 to pay for their mother / parent illness/support.
If 15dollars/hour is paid the turnover will be more frequent, as the people will make the money they need to do what they want to do ( pay university courses, build up some savings, deal with a money problem) they change job. How many months did you worked in fastfood?! Do you know they experience burnout ? Oh.. Wait, you didn't considered burnout in your discussion logic. Good luck
You're not that far off in the slightest.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/20/mcdonalds-hits-all-time-high-as-wall-street-cheers-replacement-of-cashiers-with-kiosks.html
I also went to a burger king where they had a touch screen you could order and pay from, it was actually quite wonderful, I didn't have to yell out my order and they knew what to get.
Yes between kiosk ordering and "flippy" the automated hamburger flipper, jobs in the fast food industry are going to be eliminated.
Overall, this is probably a good thing...service will be better and quicker.
They really don't care about their jobs, and I can't blame them when you make so little.
Whenever my husband hears about this, he goes off on an (Italian word based) tangent. Never have you heard so many four-letter words!
But really, what he says is, if they make $15/hour to do this, then what will I have to pay for a $1 burger? Employees get raises like that then he's not going to pay $4 or more for a burger on the go.
The state of the economy is... pathetic. But then again, when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, parents didn't have to hold two or three jobs to survive. Let alone taking the second, or third, job at a fast food place. Those jobs were for us- teenagers, etc.
And do we want to take a look to the net profit of fast foods?!
$15 ah hour just gives the corporations more incentive to automate the jobs out of existence.
Will you trust an hamburger made by a robot?!
Of course....do you trust a chicken cooked in a rotisserie cooker?
Or are you one of those who doesnt trust automation in spite of mountains of evidence that computers and robots can do things better than humans?
I am a software developer. It looks like you are missing the point. A robot will not be easily able to keep the hygiene required, not for less than 15dollars/ hour, you are naive to believe so, you don't know how AI works.
Ah okay. I am naive. That is only why most of the largest corporations in the world, all of them, including fast food chains are starting to automate processes.
And I guess I am naive to believe that fast food workers are going to reduce in number and that MCD and others are just going to pay increase wages over time.
Anyway, have a good day sir.
They are automating processes because they can, they can afford it, and at the end could mean not 4 billions but 6 in 10 years from now, they are investing in tools for the future but there is the money for 15 dollars per hour, take a look to 2016 net profit for mcdonald.
To start, MCDs doesnt pay the people in the restaurants...that is done by the owners of the franchises...they are the ones who foot the bill...not corporate....that is on their individual P&L statements.
Secondly, the net profit you discussed is owned by wall street. The board decides what to issue in dividend and what to retain for expansion/prudent reserve. Any CEO or board the has a declining net profit (or revenues) doesnt stay employed too long. The only way Wall Street doubles the payroll is if it doubled the earnings.
We have a better chance at getting into Fort Knox than Wall Street answering corporations suddenly paying more because they could afford it. More people were arrested in Occupy Wall Street, a legal demonstration than bankers were arrested for collapsing the worldwide economy through their ponzi MBSs.
See this is a continual problem in the work force today, working at a fast-food restaurant IS NOT considered a "extreme technical" career job to perform. Many of these people who push for the "15," has not had a job that requires WAY MORE RESPONSIBILITY then preparing a meal for complete strangers who come into to the establishment looking for a combo meal, or even the occasional [gas burger] big mac. A 6th grader can do the same job down to a "T" (despite the fact that the kid would probably show signs of goosebumps, until they feel like they've gained enough experience to handle the job with no problems.) And that's the key thing about jobs like this, they are classified as "starting out jobs" which helps to them to build responsibility, integrity, and MOST of all discipline.
These are some of the requirements needed before they pursue MORE RESPONSIBILITY in higher paying job titles / positions. Supervisors, team-Leaders, and Managers TAKE ON MUCH GREATER RESPONSIBILTY ROLES then the employees who prepare food, or the ones stationed at the drive through window.
They don't deal with complaints from customers.
They don't have to keep track of all the shipments of chicken nuggets, or the bill of lading from the purchases made from the mass shipment of product goods that come into the store to keep the operation running smoothly day to day, and they have to make sure it does in order for the workers to get paid their wages every end of the week. Then there's the corporate calls chiming in to see how the progress of business is doing (and I use to work at Burger King, and would often hear the manager get chewed the F out due to under sales or bad customer service because they did reviews on the restaurant's performance in that particular town or city. Then there the discussion of hours or scheduling of workers, and how much does the supervisors and managers get paid. LOL. They're salary based on a fixed income, unless they're up for their review, and yes they do strive hard to get that added bonus throughout the year, because they have to scrape hard for their money WITH TONS OF ADDED STRESS TO BOOT.
And this is stress the worker does not have the honor of facing every single day, all they have to do is prepare the food. [Plus these fast food chains are now motioning more towards automation to cut out the middle man, or the employee who demands for higher wages.]
Not a good strategy to go and aggravate the top heads of a multi-billion dollar industry, because corporate management will not put up with any of the complaining, they'll just scrap the employee and hire in another who'll do the job without any questions asked. Like so..
machines will take their place soon