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RE: Why Libertarians Want the Bigots To Out Themselves
It's not bigotry to refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple, it's their constitutionally protected right to practice their religion just as it's gay peoples constitutionally protected right to get married. Refusing to bake a wedding cake does NOT stop gay couples from getting married but forcing a baker to participate in the design, preparation and delivery of a wedding cake does stop them from practicing their religion.
I would consider it bigotry, but the point is that I believe those businesses have the right to be bigots. Even if I am incorrect over what is and what is not bigotry. I get to make that decision and choose to support which businesses I want to support.
You are wrong on so many levels. "constitutionally protected right to get married?, which amendment is that? "does stop them from practicing their religion", yes, it does. It violates their belief system as part of their religion. Government should not have a role in any of this I see being discussed. Stop it with the thought that if you believe something and others should too or I'll have my big brother with a gun fix this for me. Get off my lawn. How long did it take you to dream up all that tripe? You certainly did not reason it out and never likely will.
That would be the fourteenth amendments equal protection clause. Look it up, that's how it went before the Supreme Court. The first amendment protects religion. This is the first time in our country's history that one constitutionally protected right crosses over another. (I am not religious nor gay) I am just stating my opinion, refusing to bake a wedding cakes does NOT prohibit gay people from getting married, I think the court will rule along those lines. I think the court will rule the same they did with the guy who sued a doctor for talking about guns. The court ruled there was sufficient access to doctors therefore it didn't justify infringing upon the doctors free exercise of free speech. I think it's possible they will say the same thing about wedding cakes, there's sufficient suppliers of cakes it doesn't justify infringing upon the free excise of one's religion. We'll see shortly, June is fast coming upon us here, a decision will have to be rendered by then.
BTW, sunlit7, are YOU going to force them to bake it? Do you want someone else to do your dirty work......ya....that's what I thought.
The way I feel about it is like this: I think most religious people are hypocrites, they think they can get away with sinning then turn around and ask for forgiveness. People who are religious who put their whole livelihoods on the lines are a bit different. Most religious people would just bake the cake, the one's who would rather face losing their business, savings, homes, etc., in my opinion, truly abide by their religion. They don't put other things before their god(s). They can't help themselves just as gay people claim they can't help themselves for being gay. Neither one of them deserves to destroy one another.