They Tear Families Apart in the Name of Child Protection, Which is Why We are Starting Familly Protection, A support Group For Families that Need Protecting.
It's time to combine our efforts, support each other's stories and come together for a better #familyprotection.
Every time I tell my stories of growing up in the foster care system or trying to keep my children out of this system, I get a huge response from this community.
I have noticed in the comment section of these posts that there are so many voices from so many different people in so many different countries, all speaking out against the same system, the same tyranny, the same recurring nightmare of children being taken by CPS for the obscurest of reasons.
They pick on single mothers or parents who don't have the support of a community, people who don't have the resources, know-how or power to fight back.
Steemit is a place where all stories can be heard without fear of censorship, Steemit is a place where people can support one another and come together for the greater good of this planet, Steemit is a place where voices can REALLY be heard.
With all this in mind, We would like to start a new group, a group of people standing together as one, for people who want to make a change but feel powerless on their own, a group of people supporting each other with their struggles against the system.
This group will support anyone who has a story of their dealings with the CPS, social services, or any other so-called "child protection" group.
This is a place for people for want to speak out against the foster care system, the Child Protection Service, the courts, the judges or any organisation that take our children in the name of law and justice.
This group will start off small, but as steemit grows this group will one day be a force to be reckoned with.
This group may one day have the funds and the lawyers to help people who find themselves under attack from the system.
This group is set up by various steemians, it is not MY group, I am just the chosen messenger, We believe if this group has no leader then they have no one to go after, no one to persecute, no one to harass.
We will all have to help this group grow in whichever way we can and we will all have a say.
The format of this group we believe will change the bigger it gets, but for now, we can start off by just writing stories and tagging them with #familyprotection this way we can all support one another and hopefully we can get the attention of some whales who are willing to support this group.
A @familyprotection account has been set up, this account will hold all future funds and will hopefully recieve delegation loans to help support all genuine #familyprotection posts.
We will have a discord chat group called Family Protection, once you join this discord group you will be redirected to a safer more private chat group for discussing more sensitive matters.
Discord Link
For us to be taken seriously the stories we tell must be real and true.
We believe this group could be a great way for people to get the right information, help, support and protection they will need when dealing with the state.
Please be a part of this initiative by supporting and helping it grow in anyway you can.
All the liquid steem from this post will be put into savings on the @familyprotection account,
this account is in the trusted hands of a very trustworthy member of this community @canadian-coconut
It is truly time to band together to stop this tyranny. When CPS came knocking at our door from an "anonymous tip" we immediately came together as a community, writing affidavits on the well being of the children and the incredible loving parent/child relationships unlike any we have ever seen before. When CPS insisted on coming in, we gave them an appointment. We set up a table with a table cloth, flowers and fresh squeezed juice on the OUTSIDE of the gate on the side of the road. We slapped down a dozen signed and notarized affidavits and basically blew them out of the water as we all stood together around them with our video cameras rolling, looking them directly in the eyes (when they looked up from their dumbfounded stuper). We called their office and spoke with the supervisors and basically just nipped it in the bud right there. We were very successful because we stood together as a community and were immediate backing and support for one another.
Coming together in this way is super powerful. The fact that Steemit is not censored is truly a plus as the truth can be told, the support can be rallied, and the community can stand together. I love this idea and I feel it is a truly great opportunity to make change in something that needs to stop right now.
I support this intiativie @markwhittam and grateful for all the support from @canadian-coconut, @ausbitbank and others who will bring great awareness to this issue. Great job. So glad for all the passion ignited and that your family is safe.
I am so happy that you knew how to deal with these state kidnappers, if everyone knew this information then they would not have a chance, if everyone refused to register the birth of their child they could never come to claim their property with such ease.
Coming together like you did is the only way to stand up to them, and I believe steemit is the perfect place to bring people together and get the support that might otherwise be unattainable.
I am very happy with the amount of support that has been offered for this cause, @everlove @quinneaker and @gardenofeden are a great asset to this community and to have your blessings and support is hugely beneficial.
I really look forward to steemfest, getting to meet you and @quinneaker is going to be one of the highlights for me.
Thanks again for reaching out to us.
It is my pleasure and honor to support people coming together to save the children, families and well-being. Standing together is really key. That is why we are separated and divided and picked apart one piece at a time. Thank goodness we now have the information, knowledge and ability to see what is happening and engage ourselves in being the change. Let's do it TOGETHER!!!
I'm excited to meet you and your family @markwhittam. The more love we gather in one place, the more powerful we become and the stronger we stand united. Steemfest will be that for many of us on many fronts. So glad you're making it a priority to be there! <3
If people stopped registering anything they would be much more free without having to take any action at all simply because it is the registry that gives the presumption of ownership.
I've recently heard of a family in the US who had their kids taken while they were't registered...So I'm not sure if not registering is the answer, since they pretty much get away with anything.
It's not "the" answer, but it has some serious benefits.
First, if you don't register your children (anywhere...) then they aren't in the system and easy find.
Second, by not registering your children you are taking away the presumption of ownership by the state/feds and so any pretense that they aren't actually kidnapping your children (which is a crime).
While it is true that most people don't understand that registering something in effect gives control to the ones you register with, lack of comprehension does not change the facts.
And since, as you note, they believe they can pretty much get away with anything... and most of us don't know enough law to file a lawsuit properly much less pursue it... then they can and will still do these things.
Not so many years back (15ish?) a lady down in oregon that was prosecuting local officials for child abduction and pedophilia had her kids taken by CPS... and the one that wasn't registered (the youngest) was returned the next day.
Of course, add bolder criminal elements in official places to average people who have learned nothing about how law works and you end up with serious abuse.
I agree. It is however very hard not to register a child, depending on where you are. My youngest 2 were born unassisted at home so I could have gotten away with it easier. But with my eldest son, my then 'lovely' parents in law made an anonymous referral to the child protection service in Holland. So even though he wasn't registered at the time, they still got involved even though he was perfectly fine and it is not illegal to have an unassisted birth there. The unassisted birth of my youngest is in our file now in this case here in Ireland. Since most people travel and need passports, it is needed for those to get their children registered. It's not fair and I personally don't believe in man made borders, but that's the way it is and there is no running from it.
I love the way you handled that. In my case their visit was expected but in the end it was still a surprise when they finally showed up. I was alone with the kids and let them back me in a corner. They pretty much had free play because at the time I didn't know what to do or who to call. They walzed in like the Gestapo and I see them as nothing else than that: government hired criminals who will do anything to terrorize families who are different from what they have in their guide books. I'm glad your family is safe. Love & Light.
Thanks for your comment @misslasvegas. They love surprising the unexpected, less supported people. It's easier to get their kids! AARGH! Just saying that makes me sick!
We gratefully know a lot about our rights, and have unfortunately had a lot of opportunity to stand up to the tyranny of those who believe they are in control. I so wish we were all in closer proximity to lend support in these really traumatic times. Gratefully coming together powerfully in initiatives like this on Steemit will give everyone support, connections, and provide greater awareness and possibility for safety than ever before, especially while having to go it alone. Thank you for the love, and the light. May it all keep shining upon you and your family.
This is an awesome story of how you came together, knowing your rights, and stopped them before they could kidnap any of your children.
It would be great if you could write up a separate post about this incident, and tag it #familyprotection
I do agree that it is a story worth sharing. This is a story best told by @quinneaker. We are in a very special situation where we have immediate support from our community. Not everyone is so blessed to have such a powerful group of warriors!!!
Hi @everlove, please consider following @familyprotection for related posts and updates. Thank you.
I indeed will do so. It's a super important and valuable initiative!
absolutely, everlove. i am so glad you related this story. banding together ALWAYS works. to do this banding together, people are prepared to move residence, to live near each other.
i support this initiate always.
Banding together really is a HUGE part of the equation. I would do whatever was necessary to ensure the safety of my family. There is nothing of greater value than the well-being of our children. Standing up together gives us great leverage--priceless to stand up to the tyranny. Thanks for the comment. Grateful to connect with you here again @marionjoe!!!
Once I have my new site up, one of the agenda items will definitely be to see about getting legislation in place to make it a criminal act to take children from their families without a criminal trial by jury on a claim of criminal neglect or criminal abuse.
Right now, these agencies can do just about whatever they want for any reason... and they receive funding based on how many children they take.
A good first step would be to require that before the removal of a child even be considered the parents would have to be convicted of a real crime against the child in a jury trial (no forced plea bargains, etc.).
Notice that such a first step would require a criminal complaint sworn under oath before any action at all could be taken at all by CPS.
None of this "someone called and told us" garbage that could be (and sometimes is) made up out of thin air and used to take children simply because the parents are rather poor by societies standards.
Hi @tony.jennings, Your new site sounds interesting, please keep us posted.
They seem to be above the law, they are getting very aggressive with the rate they are taking children and for reasons that are unrealistic.
We are taking a step in the right direction just by talking about it, and when enough people are talking about it then something can start to be done about this situation.
Thanks for your input, its very much appreciated.
Bless.
Thanks markwhittam.
The site I'm building is meant to be a springboard for everyone to start putting political pressure on the politicians (and maybe even start replacing them) to do what the vast majority of people can agree on rather than focusing on our differences.
By creating a platform that allows us to track who is opposing things, who is supporting them, and more easily take actions to make our voices heard in government I'm hoping we might start moving back towards actual freedom. Yes, I'm a dreamer...
Anywise, I know of some victims of CPS myself... anyone that believes that children are better off being raised by "the state" or "families that collect a paycheck for having them" than they are with their actual parents (excepting in extreme circumstances) is delusional.
Love is much more important than wealth. And the love of a parent is almost always going to be superior than being raised by either those calling themselves the state (there are serious horror stories related to children going "missing") or uncaring people that simply want cash for putting up with other peoples children.
Yes tony.jennings I actually believe we are making steps towards real freedom because of dreamers like yourself.
With platforms like steemit the truth will be heard.
Please consider following @familyprotection for related posts and updates and please inform us when your site is up so we can support it. :)
Bless
and we thought asset forfeiture was atrocious
More of the same as far as I'm concerned... but definitely more twisted.
Want some horror stories?
Read the first few results turned up carefully for a search on "cps makes money for taking children.
A quick search for "cps loses children" and "cps child trafficking" turns up all kinds of horrific stories that you probably will end up wishing you had never read.
CPS should be expunged as far as I'm concerned. It's not "for the children" but rather "for the cash". Children are being stolen on pretense every day.
Asset forfeiture is another thing on my chopping block... as it too should be a criminal act without a criminal conviction by a jury in a proper court of law.
Why do I favor conviction by jury? Because those of us that are paying attention and making sure we are eligible for jury duty could potentially use jury nullification to help each other and eventually make such criminal legislation become dead letters.
Do I sound out there? Maybe. But in the two decades since I was a teenager the world has become much worse... and I believe that part of the problem is those (like me) that have stayed out of the political system because it is corrupt. With todays technology there is no reason we cannot get organized and start to turn things around.
People need to understand the power they actually have through jury nullification.
I completely agree. I've abstained from politics all of my life (until recently) because I believe the system to be corrupt.
It is corrupt, but if those of us who see as much refuse to participate then we continue to allow those who corrupt our lives (and those of our children) to turn us down a dark road.
WE, as people, have the capacity to say NO. We can vote our values, save our fellows, and turn any (and all) bad legislation into dead letters.
I truly wish that I had my current comprehension two decades ago... but it took me almost a decade to unlearn that which I had been conditioned too in our public schools... and even now I have to look closely at that which I believe to weigh what is a product of the system and what is a product of factual knowledge.
If we wake up and start saying "not guilty" to non-crimes then the corruption in the system will end tomorrow. We do have the power... but we mostly fail to realize it.
Thats is very true. It is a power that should be wielded more often
You're doing more damage to the state just by using crypto currencies, than you ever will via the political process.
It doesn't need reform; it needs to become another closed chapter in human history.
I agree that the chapter needs to come to a close and that currently much can be done via crypto-currencies.
However, I'd point out that crypto-currencies rely on electrical power, networks of phone lines, and technologies that are controlled by the people that run the system... and could easily be expunged by simply turning off the lights or heavily restricting access to any one of these things.
I've been against politics all of my life (and still am as far as using politics to force anything on anyone) but have come to believe that if we use every tool in the tool box we could turn things around much more quickly and with much more eventual strife.
When I was young I refused to take part in either political process or legal process as both are corrupt.
Eventually I realized that wrapping my head around the legal process provided many tools that have allowed me to be much more effective in refusing to comply with over stepping legislation.
Today, I've come to feel that becoming involved in politics provides a platform for offering alternatives to authoritarianism... so I'm jumping in finally as I want to be able to ask pointed questions, point out logical fallacies, and voice rational alternatives to more of the same publicly.
Will I change the world? No. Will I help to wake some people up? I hope so.
I've given this a lot of thought; and my conclusion, at least my current conclusion, is that serving policemen are the state.
Everyone else is just talking; they're threatening, and backing up those threats.
So by all means run for office, work in the public sector or campaign however you see fit.
If I actually do ever run for office it will be to focus on expunging and opposing authoritarian legislation, ending corrupt practices, and supporting/initiating legislation to replace authoritarian legislation with viable alternatives.
That being said I'm a long way off from any such thing at this point. Of course, I have a large extended family and if I ever do take an office they will all be rolling on the floor.
Imagine a mayor standing up in public and making the following statement:
There would probably be a media storm within a week and I'd likely be tossed out shorty afterwards. That or I'd have an "accident" or "sudden health problem".
Police who refuse to enforce legislation against people are not police for long. They either quit in disgust or are fired for not meeting quotas.
100% agree.
absolutely not
our problem is separating out information and acting on it to make the most difference...keeping in mind normalcy bias/ostrich effect
We should focus on the last two categories, and CPS abuse belongs in both, along with situations such as Rotherdam in England
I wish I had the above clearly explained to me two decades ago.
I've always been a bit of a fire brand, perhaps because I stepped past fear of the establishment a very long time ago.
But for many years I had a hard time reaching people because I'd point out things that all too often fell into some mix of the top three.
Another problem (at least for me historically) has been arguing instead of asking questions designed to get others to find the answers for themselves if they had interest.
By arguing (even when I could tie things together nicely into a logical progression and offer proof) I mostly just put people into a defensive mindset.
By asking the right questions, many discussions these days eventually end up with people at least entertaining the idea that something is wrong and sometimes even starting to ask questions themselves... even if they eventually find out that something has been "debunked" and so stop looking for the truth because they don't continue to ask questions.
there has been a tipping point;
These problems have gotten worse, the politicians have started becoming more blatant about not at least paying lip service to voters, and information has gotten so much easier to attain over the last 20 years.
So you have the Ministry of Truth telling Germans that their wives and children AREN'T being sexually assaulted by Muslim immigrants, or telling American workers their jobs AREN'T being displaced by Mexican immigrants, and then call them racist for complaining about these things , a market for "alt" ideas sprouts!
Ten years ago, I mocked many of Alex Jones's claims; I have turned around quickly on several since...the ones that were the second two categories!
As far as knowing how to manipulate people, or to know how they are manipulated, it's not a skill nice people pick up until they see a need to. I too wish I had spent less time goofing around as a young man and instead learning how to play this game.
Thanks!
I attempted to use jury nullification during my code compliance trial after the SWAT raid at the @gardenofeden. I was super unprepared and inexperienced for the disgusting tactics they use in court. But, to make a long story short, we handed out pamphlets outside the court house to all who entered. The first thing the judge did when the courtroom opened, was to make everyone who received one of those pamphlets turn them in saying something like: This information has no validity here. I am the one who will give you instructions and tell you how this court runs. Of course everyone complied. I would have done some things differently if I knew then what I know now. But this is just to show that the courts too are in on the whole control and deception (which most of us already know)--just one more showing of the layers we need to address in finding ways to implement and hold them accountable to deceiving the people.
They will do anything in their power to keep their control.
Lying is amazingly common... and the vast majority of people are so conditioned to obeying authority that very few will do anything other than what they are told.
Of course, it only takes 1 in 12 or so to completely nullify bad legislation... so if you end up in court (should rarely happen if you learn law... which reminds me that I need to continue that series here soon) and are fairly lucky you might not be convicted of things such as voluntary trade, ownership of plants, or other the myriad other things that are not bona fide crimes.
Then again, since jurors are pulled from the voter rolls... and most of us don't vote or register to do so... chances of that happening are worse than they might be otherwise unless you refuse a lawyer and base your entire case on swaying one of the jurors to declare you not guilty in the face of the legislation you are being charged with breaking. It has been done successfully... but is rare.
Not only will they do anything---they DO do anything!! It is sadly true that few people are awake enough to even know there is something wrong with the system. "That's just the way it is!" =(
I would love to read your series about the law. Ideally we don't end up playing their game in court, but when we do, we are definitely outnumbered by those who are in cahoots, and those who just do as they're told. I had a jury trial, and not a single one of those jurors was anything like one of my peers. They were all definitely dead sitting in those chairs, doing exactly what they were told with pasty faces, cast down eyes and droopy shoulders. So sad to see the life drained out of people, with no hope for anything that would make them feel alive!! There really is no such thing as "your day in court". Everyone is paid by the same people -- US! -- yet blindly working under the control of those who do not have the best intentions.
We are blessed to be creating a new world at the @gardenofeden. There is hope for the future if we step up to make it so.
Thanks for the response tony.jennings. It's great to connect with you.
Go go go @tony.jennings. Some of us need to stand up to what is, and others of us need to build a more life giving reality. Bringing awareness and creating change will be key. I love where you're going with this.
I have recently started writing about traumas I have experienced in life. When I get to the part about my oldest daughter being kidnapped, and then the kidnappers calling DCF in FL and claiming there was abuse, the police refused to help me to recover my kidnapped child. They refused to even take my report of her being kidnapped and transported over state lines with out my knowledge or consent. That was two years ago, I was forced to drive 1600 miles to appear in court to rebut the supposed child abuse and because I was attacked and had to visit an emergency room the day prior to court I was automatically disqualified from re-obtaining physical custody, because it was stated that if I couldn't protect myself from an attack then I couldn't protect my child. I will defiantly use the tag you provided once I write about these topics. I have two more children I desperately want to protect from another nightmare situation such as this.
Thank you for wanting to speak out about this, I can't imagine what you must be going through, it can't be easy for you to but the more people are aware of these horrific stories the better chance we have of banding together to combat these atrocities.
People who find themselves in your position need the help and support from a community.
Thank you for reaching out to us, we are on your side.
Bless.
Featured on a Facebook Page I run, called "Kidnapped Legally by CPS"
https://www.facebook.com/KidnappedLegally/
Several years ago, one of my readers sent me information about a young couple who gave birth at home and had their breastfed baby snatched by the state. I wrote about it and then people started to send me their testimonials, so I started that page.
I hear a lot of sad stories about loving families losing their children to the state. In this predatory system, children are mere commodities. This has to change!
I'll be glad to help any which way I can. BTW, I need help administrating that page, so if anyone is interested, please let me know.
Thank you @holisticgreen, we very nearly called this group legally kidnapped.
You should definitely write a steemit post about this, by tagging it with #familyprotection we can help get stories like these supported seen.
In the near future important Projects like yours will be hidden on Facebook but not on steemit
Thanks for reaching out to us, let's hope we can work together to put a stop this legal kidnapping.
I am glad to hear that you are already a part of bringing awareness to this terrible situation.
Thanks for joining us.
Thank-you for thinking up this new project,
that I am happy to help you with.
It is VERY important and these stories of corruption need to be told and heard.
As you know, I have friends that have gone through horrid experiences with the system,
which is intent on ripping good families apart. Something must be done to stop these crimes.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I really hope this project can grow and actually start helping families stay together.
without the inspiration, support and encouragement from you, this would be just a dream.
I am now fully focused on making this matter, if this project can help just one family then it will have
been a success, if it encourages one person to speak out then it will have been a triumph.
you are right something must be done and projects like this are a step in the right direction.
bless.
Thoughtful and excellent initiative...Initiative like these can really have meaningful impact on the lives of those that really need the extra support...Would be great to see initiative like these bringing the awareness and providing the support to the families that need them the most
Yes @daudimitch Lets hope initiatives like this can bit by bit make a huge difference.
Awareness is key, I believe if the families that have had children taken were first aware of such goings on, they may still have their children today.
Thanks for reaching out @daudimitch
Bless.
Hi @daudimitch please consider following @familyprotection for more related posts and updates. Thank you
alright no problem
There is a definite need for this. I am glad folks are stepping up to the plate and doing something constructive. Families have rights and considerations that are often overlooked in the strict court system and social systems out there. Stories and voices need to be heard and feelings need to be taken into consideration. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thank you @enjoywithtroy I'm so glad you agree, you are right, too many families have had their right and considerations overlooked.
Bringing it all into the light is huge leap in the right direction.
Bless..
This is an amazing thing you're doing here, I've always said we need something like this! I'm happy to help any way I can!
Upvoted and resteemed!
Hi @mommanatural, please consider following @familyprotection for related posts and updates. Thank you.
Absolutely! Thanks!
Thank you @mommanatural, the more this grows the more help we will need, in these early stages just having your support is a great help.
Bless.
It's been more than 2 months that I joined Steemit and since then, I've seen some amazing initiatives here at Steemit that I have seen nowhere else. Please really read the posts. I don't know whether it's the money/earnings as the biggest motivation or for some other reason, but people do spend time to read and comments on posts. I've also witnessed some homeless guys who actually changed their status through Steemit and were no more homeless. This is a great initiative and I really appreciate it. You got my support. Keep it up @markwhittam.
Steem On!
Thank you @ugetfunded, This platform has a wonderful effect on most people, I think money was the biggest motive when people start but then it's the sense of community that makes people want to help.
Thanks for the support.
Bless.
Hi @ugetfunded, please consider following @familyprotection for related posts and updates. Thank you.
OK found it, not a CPS lady a CPS dude
Thank you @openparadigm, this guy knew how to deal with the CPS scum, never contract with them, know the law and never give them an inch. Thanks for sharing.
Your welcome.
Hi @openparadigm, please consider following @familyprotection for related posts and updates. Thank you.
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This guy did a very good job.
We are so conditioned to do whatever those in perceived authority ask or tell us to do.
If they have (or truly believe they have) the authority to do something then they will just do it. Otherwise they will ask or tell you "their needs" (which amounts to letting you know that they need your consent to be able to do so).
Without a valid signed contract from you OR a valid warrant (supported by a signed affidavit claiming first hand knowledge that the one signing has witnessed you committing a bona fide crime and by a magistrate that has reviewed the claim and affidavit) then they need your consent.
And if CPS comes knocking (or any other government agent) then it is best to record them, say as little as possible, and firmly turn them away by stating clearly that you do not agree to let them into your home but will gladly do so as soon as they produce the contract between you OR a valid signed warrant.
If like the guy in this video they just keep telling you what they need, simply shut the door in their face after you have agreed to comply upon the production of the contract or warrant and told them to have a nice day.
Don't lie. Don't answer their questions. The more you say the more chance you have of tripping up and giving them something to be able to use to get a warrant under some pretense.
Loved the "Am I the property of the county?".
I also like the "I don't answer questions" videos