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RE: Ethics Are What The Majority Invent in Order to Keep Themselves Enslaved

in #ethics7 years ago (edited)

So morality is all arbitrary and subjective?

Most, if not al, of it is. How could it not be? That doesn't mean one shouldn't have morals, or accept any and all behaviour "because subjective". I don't think that is what is being said above. All I read there is that you perhaps should roll your own morals, and not automatically give in to, or take over, the morals of others, be they individuals or institutions or cultures.

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We just have a fundamental disagreement regarding the nature of truth and how that relates to morality. I believe in absolute objective truth, although I don't believe that someone can ever have full knowledge of that absolute truth. My only point is that if morality really is subjective, and there is no objective way of arguing for the superiority of one moral code versus another one, then there are no grounds in which one could ever say something is "evil" or unjust. How could they? It's just a different set of moral values.

I get your point, I think we have a different approach to the subject.

I don't think it is a matter of superiority or being right, or closest to the truth, or finding a set of universals that apply everywhere. A subjective set of morals is still a set of moral values that can be applied by individuals to specific cases. Such sets of moral values will overlap among individuals, so and there can be agreement in specific cases (or disagreement, as the case may be). If there is sufficient overlap, such people can function together in a group and judge behaviour within that group in a fairly consistent manner, though not necessarily outside that group.

I don't think the superiority of a set of moral values needs to be somehow proven first before moral judgments can be made; no universality of codes is necessary for that. Even when subjective, judgements can be made, the only problem being, that other groups may disagree, and there not being a "universal judge" to tell who is "right". I don't think there can be, and I don't think there need be.

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