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RE: Introducing Upvoteshares !

in #esteem6 years ago (edited)

Hi, as a @qurator Team member I want to sincerely wish you the best of luck with this project!

Just a little remark on your analysis over our project though... We didn't "switch to a monthly paid model" as you stated, we just added that option to all the other ones we already had going on. We are proudly one of the most flexible projects around. Here you can see all the options available to our members and future members, in order to achieve any of our Tiers:

About the fee price... We did increase it indeed, but you also forgot to mention that we are offering Tier 2 for the first 30 days (which roughly pays off the initial investment) and right now, after we reach the 1500th member, we will be offering 30 days on Tier 4 to everyone who jumps on board.

And here are our updated Tier values:

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About us providing any real value.. I'll leave this here so you, and others, can judge for themselves. This is a mere example and it's what you have gotten from @qurator vs what you have contributed to the project since the 1st of January till today. It can be checked here on this link by anyone interested :

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Cheers!

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Thanks for the reply and the feedback @brumest , just no make sure I'm not complaining and actually understand the situation better now where the delegation and low steem price has a big negative influence beyond @qurators control. I actually re-wrote the @qurator part and hope it is more representative. (feel free to let me know if you think anything else should be changed!)


@Qurator

This project that is run with good intentions aims to support members who bring quality content to steemit with daily upvotes. They have done a great job in that but could use some help and delegation from the devs to better support their members. The registration fee increased over time (they do give higher upvotes the first month which pays back part of it) and added an option for a monthly paid model since many members gave them minimum support. The old way of upvoting their posts 7 times each week while delegating some SP no longer provides any real value, this could be temporarly because they heavily rely on delegation which has taken a hit with the low steem price.

Current Upvote Tier 5 = 0.41$ (~0.31$ After Curation)
Price = Upvote qurator Daily Post for 0.038$ (after curation)+ 300SP delegation (0.32$ daily self-upvote worth)

Daily Upvote Received = 0.31$
Daily Upvote Cost =0.358$

Adding the fact you need to set your auto-vote to at least 0.06$ not to drop below the minimum and the times you miss getting an upvote when not making a daily post, the numbers are even a bit worse without counting the subscription price that was paid. (again I hope this is a temporary thing which will get fixed when the price of Steem increases)


This is actually a comparison that can not be made because because it does not include the 300SP I have leased to @qurator for a long time. Again I'm not complaining, the only thing I say is that right now at current steem price, 0.358$ gives back around 0.31$ on a daily basis for upvoting the daily @qurator post for 0.05$ and leasing 300SP.

You didn't have to change anything on what you wrote.
You brought up the value issue, so those are the raw values right there. There's no way to deny it. Your 300SP is included in it and allowing you to get bigger upvotes, that you wouldn't be getting otherwise.
Besides that, keep in mind that a month ago, or so, our values were at least the double (and were HUGE in the first quarter of the year, and will be again). When Steem price drops we all drop with it. Something you will understand when the right time comes, like we all did.
And with all due respect, your argument and comparison with the 10x selfvote is not really an argument.

(Just to make clear, I'm just trying to learn and understand and don't claim to be right.)

Your 300SP is included in it and allowing you to get bigger upvotes, that you wouldn't be getting otherwise.

ok, the way I wrote that was a bit confusing (to make a real comparison the 300SP total upvote value also needs to be included in the 27.28$), obviously the 300SP is included in the 86.45$ which is the reason it can't be used as an example.

And with all due respect, your argument and comparison with the 10x selfvote is not really an argument.

Why not ? Pure theoretically to me it's one of the comparison that makes the most sense.
(I'm not saying someone should go upvote themselves 10x though.)

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